I'm sorry, I can't watch this. (As a father, as a husband and as a human being...)
I made it for 2 minutes, but it has made me too angry to continue...
Upvote - to hopefully gain some attention to this barbaric ritual!

There are still some logical arguments for male circumcision, not the least of which is the health factor, not for men but for women. If bacteria builds up on the end of the penis it doesn't necessarily affect a man. But even a little can become a problem for a vagina when introduced during sex. Think of that what you will, I would still call it a logical argument however.

To date, I've never heard a non-religious/non-misogynist-based argument for female circumcision.

Western countries that wish to survive will bar all muslim immigration. Any Western politician who supports this should be hung from the nearest lamppost. Whether you're an atheist or not, if you can't see any real differences between faiths, know this: under islam, those refusing to convert are as good as dead. WTFU.

Moving this video to hpqp's personal queue. It failed to receive enough votes to get sifted up to the front page within 2 days.

>> ^Ryjkyj:

There are still some logical arguments for male circumcision, not the least of which is the health factor, not for men but for women. If bacteria builds up on the end of the penis it doesn't necessarily affect a man. But even a little can become a problem for a vagina when introduced during sex. Think of that what you will, I would still call it a logical argument however.
To date, I've never heard a non-religious/non-misogynist-based argument for female circumcision.


Simple hygiene makes this argument completely void.

*beg

Sending this video to Beggar's Canyon to plea for a little attention - beg requested by original submitter hpqp.

>> ^hpqp:

>> ^Ryjkyj:
There are still some logical arguments for male circumcision, not the least of which is the health factor, not for men but for women. If bacteria builds up on the end of the penis it doesn't necessarily affect a man. But even a little can become a problem for a vagina when introduced during sex. Think of that what you will, I would still call it a logical argument however.
To date, I've never heard a non-religious/non-misogynist-based argument for female circumcision.

Simple hygiene makes this argument completely void.


This is correct - but not only that, are humans really so flippantly egotistical that they see the culmination of millions of years of evolution, think 'i can improve that rofl'? Besides which, i suggest that if you're sleeping with a man who hasn't cleaned his foreskin properly you've got a few more problems than bacteria buildup.

I can't watch this video, i can't bear to see anyone, but especially women getting abused.

However i might suggest you change the "A modicum of self control on the part of men?" in the video description. It comes off as being misandrous and ignorant. If the man can have self control, so can the woman. If it's rape, asking for someone to issue some self control over their urge to rape seems very strange.

What gets me is the immense amount of self delusion it must take to sit there and spout on day after day after day about how God/Allah is perfect and makes no mistakes... except for the matter of female sexuality. That bit is a tiny mistake, we'll just have to take care of that ourselves.

>> ^dannym3141:

>> ^hpqp:
>> ^Ryjkyj:
There are still some logical arguments for male circumcision, not the least of which is the health factor, not for men but for women. If bacteria builds up on the end of the penis it doesn't necessarily affect a man. But even a little can become a problem for a vagina when introduced during sex. Think of that what you will, I would still call it a logical argument however.
To date, I've never heard a non-religious/non-misogynist-based argument for female circumcision.

Simple hygiene makes this argument completely void.

This is correct - but not only that, are humans really so flippantly egotistical that they see the culmination of millions of years of evolution, think 'i can improve that rofl'? Besides which, i suggest that if you're sleeping with a man who hasn't cleaned his foreskin properly you've got a few more problems than bacteria buildup.
I can't watch this video, i can't bear to see anyone, but especially women getting abused.
However i might suggest you change the "A modicum of self control on the part of men?" in the video description. It comes off as being misandrous and ignorant. If the man can have self control, so can the woman. If it's rape, asking for someone to issue some self control over their urge to rape seems very strange.


The "modicum of self-control on the part of men" is referring to the breast ironing, which is to destroy women's sexual attractiveness so men do not feel like having sex with them (consensually or not!). In general, though, all women oppressing techniques, especially in relation to sexuality (burkas, stoning/beating for adultery, etc.), are related to the misogynous view which blames women for being the sole cause of that great evil called sex, for which men have no responsibility.

^ I think this is what i meant by it seeming strange to ask for "self control". As though you're asking them to fight the urge to rape/abuse. As if you could just remind them not to and they'll remember and not do it.

*promote to complete the circumcision videos and their discussions.

Self promoting this video back to the front page; last published Sunday, August 1st, 2010 4:38am PDT - promote requested by original submitter hpqp.