Case for a Creator: Universe is fine tuned

acidSpinesays...

Ok lets just say this is true, what then professor? Well if space were expanding too fast no atoms could form... and ah if you changed gravity one tiny notch peas would become black holes... Fuck me! So you're saying absolutely massive adjustments to the laws of physics, that would destroy the universe? No way you're blowing my mind but that hardly sounds fine tuned.

My main objection is how does he know it's possible for the laws of physics to be some other way? Seriously I'd be very interested to see how these people go about testing their ideas. My guess is they won't.

westysays...

DUMB SHIT ALERT .

obviously if the universe was different we most probably would not exist and then we would not be able to comment on how its not suited to us so over an infinite amount of time we are only going to be able to say Oh look its so fine tuned when the occurance happens that it matches up with something that allows for us to come into existence.

Its to be noted that most the universe as it is appears not to be suited to human life ( and life in general) I mean on cosmic scale earth has only been suitable for humans for a blip and we are likely to get totally wiped out by any of a thousand things if not ourselfs.

This is a bit like having sum one win the lottery and then claim the odds of them winning were 100% because they won or that it was pre determined because it was so unlikely for them to win but they did so it must have been an outside force that selected them.

And then if you are going to claim that this is evidence for god then you have to say what are the odds for a god to be created ? or for a god to always exist ? or what creates a god ? given that we have hundreds of religions that are not followed by anyone really any more who is to say which religion has the correct version of god ? why would a made up story of god thats not Evan based on science be true ?

If you are going down this line of resoining then you would come to the conclusion that we are living within a computer simulation or that an Alain race created us WAY WAY WAY WAY WAY before you could come to a god conclusion But there is no solid evidence to suggest any of the above its just interesting philosophy but pure speculation not anything to build any desissoin making of.

ahaha at the end "there is really only one problem with it there is no evidence that it is true" (refuring to multiple universe thery) I don't get how he can say that about one thing and then not apply it to the other.

westysays...

Allso shinyblurry Has to be a troll , or sum-one portending to be a fundamentalist. This video is almost as bad as me posting that one about you making the universe up and u can change it in u mind and then claiming its true . or posting ghost videos and defending them as if they are well made or truthfull being compleaty unaware of the falicies and general stupidity in them.

shinyblurrysays...

Ask yourself whether you believe there isn't a God because its true or because you want it to be true.

>> ^westy:
DUMB SHIT ALERT .
obviously if the universe was different we most probably would not exist and then we would not be able to comment on how its not suited to us so over an infinite amount of time we are only going to be able to say Oh look its so fine tuned when the occurance happens that it matches up with something that allows for us to come into existence.
Its to be noted that most the universe as it is appears not to be suited to human life ( and life in general) I mean on cosmic scale earth has only been suitable for humans for a blip and we are likely to get totally wiped out by any of a thousand things if not ourselfs.
This is a bit like having sum one win the lottery and then claim the odds of them winning were 100% because they won or that it was pre determined because it was so unlikely for them to win but they did so it must have been an outside force that selected them.
And then if you are going to claim that this is evidence for god then you have to say what are the odds for a god to be created ? or for a god to always exist ? or what creates a god ? given that we have hundreds of religions that are not followed by anyone really any more who is to say which religion has the correct version of god ? why would a made up story of god thats not Evan based on science be true ?
If you are going down this line of resoining then you would come to the conclusion that we are living within a computer simulation or that an Alain race created us WAY WAY WAY WAY WAY before you could come to a god conclusion But there is no solid evidence to suggest any of the above its just interesting philosophy but pure speculation not anything to build any desissoin making of.
ahaha at the end "there is really only one problem with it there is no evidence that it is true" (refuring to multiple universe thery) I don't get how he can say that about one thing and then not apply it to the other.

westysays...

>> ^shinyblurry:

Ask yourself whether you believe there isn't a God because its true or because you want it to be true.
>> ^westy:
DUMB SHIT ALERT .
obviously if the universe was different we most probably would not exist and then we would not be able to comment on how its not suited to us so over an infinite amount of time we are only going to be able to say Oh look its so fine tuned when the occurance happens that it matches up with something that allows for us to come into existence.
Its to be noted that most the universe as it is appears not to be suited to human life ( and life in general) I mean on cosmic scale earth has only been suitable for humans for a blip and we are likely to get totally wiped out by any of a thousand things if not ourselfs.
This is a bit like having sum one win the lottery and then claim the odds of them winning were 100% because they won or that it was pre determined because it was so unlikely for them to win but they did so it must have been an outside force that selected them.
And then if you are going to claim that this is evidence for god then you have to say what are the odds for a god to be created ? or for a god to always exist ? or what creates a god ? given that we have hundreds of religions that are not followed by anyone really any more who is to say which religion has the correct version of god ? why would a made up story of god thats not Evan based on science be true ?
If you are going down this line of resoining then you would come to the conclusion that we are living within a computer simulation or that an Alain race created us WAY WAY WAY WAY WAY before you could come to a god conclusion But there is no solid evidence to suggest any of the above its just interesting philosophy but pure speculation not anything to build any desissoin making of.
ahaha at the end "there is really only one problem with it there is no evidence that it is true" (refuring to multiple universe thery) I don't get how he can say that about one thing and then not apply it to the other.



I don't have a preference its about whats evident and there is no evidence for god so im not going to believe in it, in the same way i don,t believe in unicorns or ghosts.

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