2008 presidential candidates who support the New World Order

What Presidential Candidates are part of the CFR? What are they trying to accomplish?

Fred Thompson- CFR (D)
Rudy Giuliani- CFR/AIPAC (R)
John McCain- CFR/AIPAC (R)
Mitt Romney- CFR (R)
Jim Gilmore- CFR (R)
Newt Gingrich- CFR (R)
Hillary Clinton- CFR/Bilderberg (D)
Barack Obama- CFR/AIPAC(D)
John Edwards- CFR (D)
Joe Biden- CFR (D)
Chris Dodd- CFR (D)
Bill Richardson- CFR/AIPAC (D)

Who Opposes the CFR?
Ron Paul
Dennis Kucinich
Mike Gravel
Tom Tancredo
NetRunnersays...

I try to have an open mind about these things, but aside from the accusation of "shadow government" which you could level at any one of these so-called "think tanks", I'm not sure what's so wrong about participating in an international governmental body.

I'm also curious, is Bush part of CFR?

How about European nations, are they?

Are the U.N., WTO, ICC, all hotbeds of CFR activity?

My problem with this whole line of thinking is that while Bill Clinton and Bush agree on the necessity of NAFTA, they disagree on the way they respond to the UN, WTO, and ICC. Bill Clinton, and Bush 41 liked 'em, Bush 43 despises them. McCain talks pie in the sky about replacing them with new organizations with more limited membership, and a more NATO-like bent. Long story short, if all these guys are all marching to CFR's orders, why have their policies toward international governing bodies differed?

Personally, I see changing NAFTA into NAU as a good thing, since it'd temper some of that capitalistic exploitation with a regulatory body that would make the playing field equal between all three countries, like with the EU. I wouldn't mind changing from the dollar to an "Amero" if it's a strong currency, especially if the dollar is gonna keep racing for parity with the Yen.

I hear Hillary Clinton and Obama making minor noises about "renegotiating" NAFTA to move slightly in this direction (and that's probably an exaggeration at that), but McCain says it's fine as is, and should just be expanded to Central America, too.

I may be a fire-breathing liberal, but free trade should be the policy, so long as there are protections for consumers, workers, and the environment. Protectionism ultimately stifles the economy to everyone's detriment, even if in the short term it can be beneficial.

Rage against the machine music notwithstanding, I don't see anything sinister about a group that sees a global governing body as being a necessity for globalization to work properly. I think we're being hit now by the problems of not doing that while still happily globalizing away (e.g. lead paint in toys, jobs moving overseas, stagnant/shrinking wages, etc.).

AIPAC or PNAC on the other hand, those guys are just out to screw with us.

RedSkysays...

Sorry didn't mean to downvote, accidentally hit it on my laptop touchpad. I agree with NetRunner though, the fact of the matter is issues such as nuclear proliferation and global do require a reduction in national sovereignty. The question is whether such moves are motivated by genuine broad thinking altruism or power-mongering.

volumptuoussays...

CFR is nonsense.

People thinking the CFR is going to control the world, are up there with WTC7/Truth Movement-ers, and bigfoot aficionados.

uggh, I wish I could downvote.

choggiesays...

You just did sir, with your comment, and we appreciate it, in the same way a gauge or barometer is appreciated by a forecaster....Wish we had more folks with power and balls to wield the down vote here as well, then the group would not have to suffer another cat fart or remedial, Photo-shopped masturbation/creation, and less folks who simply speak the party line-The predictable, tin-foil hat accusations from a place of limited information and no desire or concern to process any real information....Carry on, putty....
To bone up on the world of the real , might be a healthy exercise for ya all, as well as sifting some vids...or so I have been told.....


How's it feel to get choggied in the ass, eh?? Comfortable??

choggiesays...

"I don't see anything sinister about a group that sees a global governing body as being a necessity for globalization to work properly. I think we're being hit now by the problems of not doing that while still happily globalizing away (e.g. lead paint in toys, jobs moving overseas, stagnant/shrinking wages, etc.)"

Translation: Well, if we're gonna have corporations running the world, we might as well have what we think we need to be stupid and happy.... fluffy pillows and no bad joo-joo in our food, and a machine that clicks along nicely, and all the hard-workers as well, as long as they get paid well for being slaves by the people that invented and printed the money-Hell, RFID chippage and cameras everywhere, anywhere, is AOK in my book, I'm too distracted by what they tell me is going on to care anyhow.....

Nah dude, nothing sinister about being all they want you to be....Living a real life is for losers.....

volumptuoussays...

>> ^choggie To bone up on the world of the real , might be a healthy exercise for ya all, as well as sifting some vids...or so I have been told.....

How's it feel to get choggied in the ass, eh?? Comfortable??



I can't figure out if that was directed at me or not. So, I guess I'll wait to respond.

rottenseedsays...

>> ^volumptuous:
Oh, that's nice. I get downvoted for stating my opinion on the overhyped nonsense that is CFR.
Nice doin' biz with ya fellas.

Being abused by Choggie is a rite of passage here on the sift. So is being ass-raped by blankfist.

volumptuoussays...

>> ^rottenseed:
Being abused by Choggie is a rite of passage here on the sift. So is being ass-raped by blankfist.


Yeah, from my time as a lurker here, I've come to know that chuggie and quantum are colossal nitwits, so I'll wear my downvote like a badge of honor, and keep my third-eye fixed on sir buttfist.

(still: CFR = WTC7)

Constitutional_Patriotsays...

>> ^volumptuous:
CFR is nonsense.
People thinking the CFR is going to control the world, are up there with WTC7/Truth Movement-ers, and bigfoot aficionados.
uggh, I wish I could downvote.


Ahem.....

Today in the Bush administration, every single appointee is a CFR member. The CFR prohibits its members from disclosing anything that has been said within it's closed meetings to outsiders. A recent breakdown of the 4200+ members today reveals that 31% come from the corporate sector, 25% come from academia, 15% from charities, 13% from government, 8% from law, 6% from the media and 2% from other professions. CFR members are on the boards of the following sample of corporations: Citicorp, J.P.Morgan Chase, Boeing, Conoco, Disney, IBM, Exxon Mobil, Dow Jones, Viacom/CBS, Time Warner, Carlyle Group, Lehman Brothers, Morgan Stanley, Goldman Sachs, Merrill Lynch, Credit Suisse First Boston, Chevron Texaco, Lockheed Martin, Hailliburton, Washington Post/Newsweek.

A former member of the CFR: Rear-Admiral Chester Ward USN JAG (Ret) exposed the sinister intentions of the council in the Review of the News:
"The most powerful clique in these elitist groups have one objective in common - they want to bring about the surrender of the sovereignty and the national independence of the United States. A second clique of international members in the CFR...comprises the Wall Street international bankers and their key agents. Primarily they want the world banking monopoly from whatever power ends up in control of global government. They would probably prefer that this be an all-powerful United Nations organization; but they are also prepared to deal with and for a one-world government controlled by the Soviet communists if US sovereignty is ever surrendered to them."
Admiral Ward's book: "The Betrayers".

"THE COUNCIL ON FOREIGN RELATIONS (C.F.R.) IS THE AMERICAN BRANCH OF A SOCIETY WHICH ORIGINATED IN ENGLAND AND BELIEVES NATIONAL BOUNDARIES SHOULD BE OBLITERATED AND ONE-WORLD RULE ESTABLISHED." The Organization's aim is "NOTHING LESS THAN TO CREATE A WORLD SYSTEM OF FINANCIAL CONTROL IN PRIVATE HANDS ABLE TO DOMINATE THE POLITICAL SYSTEM OF EACH COUNTRY AND THE ECONOMY OF THE WORLD AS A WHOLE.....I KNOW OF THE OPERATIONS OF THIS NETWORK BECAUSE I HAVE STUDIED IT FOR TWENTY YEARS AND WAS PERMITTED FOR TWO YEARS, IN THE EARLY 1960s, TO EXAMINE ITS PAPERS AND SECRET RECORDS."
--- Col. Carroll Quigley (Ret)

"I think there is an elite in this country and they are the ones who run an elitist government (shadow government). They want a government by a handful of people because they don't believe the people themselves can run their lives... Are we going to have an elitist government that makes decisions for people's lives or are we going to believe as we have for so many decades, that the people can make these decisions for themselves?".
--- Ronald Reagan

"We are opposed around the world by a monolithic and ruthless conspiracy that relies primarily on covet means for expanding its sphere of influence; on
infiltration instead of invasion, on subversion instead of elections, on intimidation
instead of free choice, on guerrillas by night instead of armies by day. It is a system which as conscripted vast human and material resources into the building of a tightly-knit highly efficient machine that combines military, diplomatic, intelligence, economic, scientific, and political operations. Its preparations are concealed, not published. Its mistakes are buried, not headlined. Its dissenters are silenced, not praised. No expenditure is questioned, no rumor is printed, no secret is revealed."
- John F. Kennedy



And some infamous quotes from when it all began in this era.....

1920-1931 – Louis T. McFadden was Chairman of the House Committee on Banking and Curency. Concerning the Federal Reserve, Congressman McFadden notes:
"When the Federal Reserve Act was passed, the people of these United States did not perceive that a world banking system was being set up here. A super-state controlled by International Bankers and international industrialists acting together to enslave the world for their own pleasure. Every effort has been made by the Fed to conceal its powers, but the truth is – the Fed has usurped the Government. It controls everything here, and it controls all our foreign relations. It makes and breaks governments at will."
Concerning the Great Depression and the country's acceptance of FDR's New Deal, he asserts: "It was no accident. It was a carefully contrived occurrence. The International Bankers sought to bring about a condition of despair here so they might emerge as the rulers of us all."


And of course we can't forget:
-- Woodrow Wilson (28th President of the United States) stated:

"I am a most unhappy man. I have unwittingly ruined my country. A great industrial nation is controlled by its system of credit. Our system of credit is concentrated. The growth of the nation, therefore, and all our activities are in the hands of a few men. We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated governments in the civilized world. No longer a government by free opinion, no longer a government by conviction and the vote of the majority, but a government by the opinion and duress of a small group of dominant men."

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