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Eyes Wired Shut: For Schapelle Corby

Zeus says...

Sorry if that is inconvenient, but you don't know who I am so please don't jump to conclusions.

But what that article does do is articulate well the problem with a public forum: I mean Nicola's comments not the tripe around them.

Post anything somewhere like this and a bunch of trolls appear who can't be bothered to check out truth, to slag it off. That is what the bit in comment is saying.

Can't you see the irony? YOUR similarity with those who jump in with no knowledge making worthless no-even-funny cruel comments. I think it calls them a mob in that article?

Exactly what you have done here.

It doesn't take too much working out that if I posted a similar video, even on an entirely different person, the same sort of cruel comments would appear! That is the point.

Can't you see that?

You "can't be bothered" trying to rise yourself above that level, and being 'bothered' to think and educate.

It's your life, but passing everything by without scratching the surface makes for a very shallow life. That is the point I have been making.

Eyes Wired Shut: For Schapelle Corby

Zeus says...

You have no idea who I am. I posted a video, that's all. And back came some shallow guy couldn't even be bothered to read the basic information provided. Thus, no idea of the facts, the background, the politics, nothing. But STILL insisted on making offensive, cruel and absolutely misguided comments, on the basis of that zero knowledge.

I explained the obvious: don't make such forceful comments, especially nasty ones, if you are too lazy to check the actual facts and do the groundwork, but STILL you didn't buy it. STILL came the abuse.

That is pathetic. It is accepting that you have no clue at all because you "can't be bothered" but then going on to offer an opinion as if it has any value. It doesn't. How can it?

I know there is an underbelly on the internet which just reacts and never thinks, but I had hoped that it might not have infiltrated here. I was wrong.

Some life advice for you. Before you launch off with nasty commentary, actually learn something about the matter you are talking about. If you don't you end up looking like you do to me.

Eyes Wired Shut: For Schapelle Corby

Zeus says...

No spoco2, wrong and wrong. If you can't be bothered to research, the decent position is to say something like "I haven't time to check it out but it looks like there are some serious problems there". Because after all, NO-ONE is disputing the human rights abuses, the burning of the evidence, the refusal to tret for country of origin, etc etc. NO-ONE.

But no, you prefer a limp and rather nasty "plenty of evidence to say she's guilty" when you can produce NONE, because there is none. She collected a bag that had a few pounds of mj in it. That's it. They are killing her.

But you are motivated to argue like hell, pluck non-existent evidence, and repeat it again and again.

And you think you are reasonable? You are not. There is something wrong there, because a normal decent person just wouldn't come from there. A normal person would be appaled at the 20 year political setnence (a death sentence for her), the human rights abuses and the show trial, and at worst be neutral. Not you though.

Obviously there are side kicks like you. It is sad, but it doesn't change anything.

You can't be bothered to research: fine. But to come in kicking someone in such a pitiful state, hanging on to life, from a position of zero knowledfe - well, it kind of defines you.

Not pretty.

Eyes Wired Shut: For Schapelle Corby

Zeus says...

I'm relieved. It was becoming a magnet for callous and cruel comments by those too lazy to actually research what actually happened.

They are slowly killing an innocent woman, but this clearly doesn't bother some people, who seem to derive self satisfaction from making ill founded yet damaging statements. I epxected more intelligence.

Can't see me posting another after this experience. Oh well.

Eyes Wired Shut: For Schapelle Corby

Zeus says...

"I will confess that I'm not going to read a 42 page document about it"
"go and spend ages reading that and then come back to me"

Can't you people see? You have been fed sound bites: I point you to more detail and real information and you can't be bothered.

Fine: but to then say she's guilty? That is wrong and very nasty (she is dying and needs people to be bothered!). If you can't be bothered to read the evidence and information you haven't got the background to make such a vicious comment.

The videos are 'emotive rubbish' but the sound bites carefully fed by the media to subdue opinion are ok? FFS.

And the media on Oz? LOOK: www.journoz.com/schapellecorby/

LOOK AT IT. LOOK! This is real.

Stating the media will do anything but smear just shows again how ignorant you are: ignorance created by a refusal to actually be bothered to look at the facts.

This is defineily the last video that I will post here. For some reason I expected intelligence: people who might actually consider and use what is between their ears. Instead look what I get: 'Can't be bothered, the media will do it, she must be guilty because.... well I can't be bothered'.

It is pathetic, it really is. You learn and know NOTHING unless you make the effort. If you can't be bothered, your opinion is worthless, because it stems from an empty mind.

I am sorry, but that is true, not just here, but in life.

And I do think you are "a heartless, uncaring bastard" as you put it yourself (because you are). But more: your words suggest that you are not very bright. People who are CAN be bothered to learn and understand, and don't spew out hurtful and damaging comments on the basis of self confessed ignorance of a topic. They can be bothered to read before they speak. Their words are therefore worth listening to.

Definitely no point in posting here again though given the ill considered responses.

Eyes Wired Shut: For Schapelle Corby

Zeus says...

"it's pretty hard to overlook the fairly convincing evidence that she was knowingly attempting to traffik an illegal substance"

What convincing evidence? There is none. This is why I feel reluctant now to post another video here. People say stuff like that and it's just mud, which sticks.

There is no evidence. Why don't you just do what I said to the other guy and actually READ the PDF. Why not read what happened at the show trial? Do this and arm yourself with facts, rather than inventing the lie that there is some form of evidence. There isn't... so why are you saying there is? It find it to be sickening to be honest.

And yes, I post Schapelle videos here. I am a jounalist, who has monitored this case and have been horrified. Is there a problem with that? If so, someone tell me, and I'll go and never return.

I can live with that: but people posting and inventing stuff which indirectly hurts someone who is actually dying? That is grotesque.

Eyes Wired Shut: For Schapelle Corby

Zeus says...

You don't read my words properly do you spoco2... or you can't be bothered actually reading the information I post. There is a 41 page document there waiting to be read. The sources are extremely reputable, spanning everything from government reports to international media. Had you read it you would have seen that.

But of course effort "wastes your time", so instead you come back and quote the totally unreliable Wikipedia: which gets edited back any time any of the above is posted.

If I couldn't be bothered actually learning enough on a topic to post with authorityor sense, I wouldn't post. That is better than doing what you have done, which amounts to: 'I can't be bothered checking this out, but regardless here is what I think...".

There is no way she is guilty. Guilty people carrying marijuana don't slash the inner bag open before setting off to release the smell, they don't beg for the drugs to be tested for country of original (they were INDONESIAN FFS, which is why they burned them), they don't beg for DNA testing, they don't beg for fingerprints, they don't beg for CCTV footage when a pic of an inflated bag would hang them.... and much much more. That's even before you look at the show trial and the human rights and the government complicity.

So: CHECK IT OUT PROPERLY before infering guilt. To post like yours, basically suggesting to everyone that there is some credibility which justifies her slow killing is not very nice. You and others like you are part of the reason she is still there, and deteriorating daily.

Eyes Wired Shut: For Schapelle Corby

Zeus says...

Having said that spoco2... I see you voted for it... so maybe I was a we bit harsh on you. :-)

I think it's a great video (and no, I didn't make it!). They way they've sync'd the footage with the lyrics isn't easy to do from my experience. And the news announcement overlay and Schapelle crying aren't on the original song, so they've integrated that very well.

Eyes Wired Shut: For Schapelle Corby

Zeus says...

Well, spoco2... did you actually read the 41 page document I referred to:
www.schapelle.net/propositions/hiddentruth.pdf ?

If you did, you will have seen that all the major points are externally referenced, and really not disputed. Or how about the human rights abuses: www.schapelle.net/report.html, also referenced? All that is ok by you is it? Nice.

And it's hardly a duplicate. The first is a static image of lyrics. This is a film which someone has clearly put a great deal of work into.

But if you open a page with an empty heart, and a mission to criticize, you are going to come up with irrationality I guess. Bet you're a really nice guy to know. Let her die, eh?

FFS. Some people.

Eyes Wired Shut: For Schapelle Corby

Zeus says...

It's a nightmare, and it got horribly political (hence the obvious political sentence). The bottom line was that strategic political relationships trump human rights. The Oz government backed away, and worse, used their media to cover their tracks. It is only now that bits of the truth are slipping out.

I don't know if I can post links, but here is a 41 page dossier, which hardly any Australian even knows exists:
www.schapelle.net/propositions/hiddentruth.pdf

It is staggering. On the media stuff is also slipping out:
www.journoz.com/schapellecorby/

The problem is... we are running out of time. She is dying. Artists like Tara Hack an dthe guys in this video are on to it, but she's been there 5 years and is in a bad way.

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When You Tried To Tell The World... Song for Schapelle Corby

Zeus says...

She has spent 5 years out of TWENTY is a hell hole, is suffering beyond ANYTHING you can imagine, endured one of the most blatant show trials of modern times in which her human rights were systematically trashed... and you "think it's pretty likely that she did it.".

What sort of person says that? What sort of person is that callous?

How about looking here:
www.schapelle.net/propositions/hiddentruth.pdf

Or at the proven human rights abuses:
www.schapelle.net/trial.html

Or head over to JournOz.Com and see how public opinion was subdued to allow her government to maintain its political stability with Indonesia.

This is barbaric cruelty almost beyond belief: yet some people post as though it was a game of football.

It is an innocent young woman struggling to survive on a daily basis. A REAL person, being crucified for politics (for and mega War on Drugs funding) over a few pounds of dope.

This beautiful song is a cry of despair. Some people though will never care about others, however desperately they need help.

When You Tried To Tell The World... Song for Schapelle Corby

Zeus says...

The artist is Holly Wilson, a young Australian girl. The video was produced by a guy called Morpheus from England.

For anyone interested, the mp3 of the song can be downloaded free of charge from: www.schapelle.net/hollywilson.html

Please don't walk away....

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Zeus says...

This video should be put in front of anyone who belives that the media is free and balanced. It should mandatory viewing for all journalists.

For anyone interested in the horror story behind the case, see www.schapelle.net. The censorship is against someone whose human rights have been systematically abused. Schapelle Corby never had a chance: she has been in her cell for going on 5 years, with 15 still to serve (she may well not survive).

For the Australian government, their strategic relationship with Indoensia trumps her human rights every time. The media play ball.

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