You know, i sort of half notice in slow motion that half of the time, when i'd ordinarily think my dog and another dog were getting a bit frisky, they look like a bit like they're practising but making sure not to connect, or land a bite. Interesting.

Also, @jmd, at the beach near me, loads and loads of all different sorts of dogs get together and play. There's a bit of a roughing every so often, but no appendage loss, and i'm talking all kinds of dogs - couple of pit bulls, doberman, etc.. in my experience there are two times you need to be alert around other dogs - 1) if your dog is feeling threatened, separate it 2) if you see someone with a dog who's carrying it, or got it leashed and acting scared when another dog approaches, the dog is gonna behave the same (and dogs don't often choose the flight response).

My dog is a big, muscular dog. But he's the dog that people let rescue dogs or young puppies play with to get them used to the idea that big dogs are playful, not threatening Yeah, i'm proud of him.. people time their walks to coincide with his.

I believe that a sane dog's temperament is dependent upon the owner, not its size or breed (within reason - i wouldn't immediately assume something like a dingo could be raised domestically).

Aww! Thank you, Lawdeedaw!
You have caused/been near/knew of many a close call, but I notice you've kept your bacon safe. Nice work.
I had a run-in with a pit bull once, I was sure I was gonna die.

The list of all the death I've caused however...is long and distinguished.
Even so, you get the hug. (((Law)))

What a gentle Pit Bull! They can be sweet dogs but they don't always know just how unbelievably strong they actually are. Those two will make a good team.

>> ^GenjiKilpatrick:

The mere fact that a police officer is present carries the threat of violence.
They don't carry around pepper spray and tazers, batons and guns [with real bullets] for fashion/decoration.
>> ^dystopianfuturetoday:
When has a cop ever threatened you with violence?




Wait, I was done with comments for now until this. So, a karate master is a threat? Or someone with a car is a threat (On a funny note, the answer to that is yes.) A person with a pit bull is a threat?

Yes, the analogy fits---the fact is most cops don't want to use the top level of violence, even if they can.

This is a link to a cop who is afraid to use force, and shot so many times that his body was unrecognizable. Because, the crazy motherfucker veteran said, "He didn't take charge, that's why I had to kill him." Sad part is, this cop had just been admonished days before for self-defense... He pulled when he felt threatened, but society made sure the next time he died. http://videosift.com/video/Cop-is-killed-by-insane-veteran-shot-until-unrecognizable

There is a balance that needs to be made, but with both sides complaining like politicians, it won't happen in my lifetime.

Having lived in California, you DO see the news covering pit bull attacks (Cali has a long history of pitbull laws, so they show up in the news all the time).. in neighborhoods that do happen to have buildings that look JUST like that.. and the news reports DO tend to involve ethnic people (I would guess this is simply a victom of statistical circumstance).

THAT'S The joke.. that this picture from the middle east actually DOES resemble something you see on the local news, with the subject he mentions.

You could just as easily say he's framing pit bulls as killer animals. I'm sorry, but I think you're delibratly connecting a dot between a joke involving associating of an image to outright racism. Yes the joke lacked taste, but some jokes are more crude than others.

"some Mexican's pit bull has eaten a baby"

Maher implies Mexicans are bad dog owners. Racist speech is banned here.
I nominate this video to be killed.

*discuss

I'm sure you weren't writing this for my benefit but I just wanted to say I appreciate you kind of knowing where I was coming from, and you hit the nail on the head when you mentioned about how people can have complex reactions to seemingly inoffensive situations. I'm not the type to come out with very personal statements like that, but something about it just hit a raw nerve and I was in a weird enough mood to show it...

Anyway, thanks mate
In reply to this comment by petpeeved:
I'm in the lay off Alien_concept camp here. As if her small autobiographical contribution to this thread should really have an effect on the volume of warm fuzzies you are deriving from this video.

By all means be warm and fuzzy, just don't be surprised when some people have slightly more complex reactions to what you perceive as a purely joy filled moment.

respectfully,

Mr. Buzzkillington The Third

P.S. This video gave me some warm fuzzies. Even if the dad turns out to be a douche in other aspects and immediately returned to training his pit bull for the weekend dog fighting championship, it's nice to see parents be generous with their time.

I'm in the lay off Alien_concept camp here. As if her small autobiographical contribution to this thread should really have an effect on the volume of warm fuzzies you are deriving from this video.

By all means be warm and fuzzy, just don't be surprised when some people have slightly more complex reactions to what you perceive as a purely joy filled moment.

respectfully,

Mr. Buzzkillington The Third

P.S. This video gave me some warm fuzzies. Even if the dad turns out to be a douche in other aspects and immediately returned to training his pit bull for the weekend dog fighting championship, it's nice to see parents be generous with their time.

Yes it looks to be a American Staffordshire terrier, a cousin to pit bulls. Although it could be a mix of both, seeing his size.

Pit bull vs. bear.

HE WAS ROBBED!

But really, great fun. Good submission.

>> ^spoco2:

>> ^Matthu:
Well, my dog kept glancing at the kid and back at me, he was ready to bolt but I didn't catch it in time, and he took off after the kid. The kid panicked and raced right into the street, both of them almost got hit by cars. And just then the police were turning the corner and pretty much caught the whole thing. The kid was bawling his eyes out. I got a ticket and a stern lecture from a dumb fat bitch cop.
Whats my point? Well. It's a given that I fucked up my letting my dog off his leash like that. But, I really wish there would be some amount of responsibility on the kid, or his parents for being so ignorant.
Oh come ON! Fucking hell I can't believe that you could actually tell that story with the thought that you're in the right, or the kid is in the wrong at all.
It's NOT the kid who is ignorant in this situation, it's you. To try to say that the kid should know better than to LOOK at an animal, fucking hell. You are fully in the wrong here as YOU are the one that has chosen to own a potentially lethal animal (I'm not singling out pit bulls here, all dogs are that way, and I've had a dog, I have nothing against them), so YOU have the responsibility to keep it safe and to keep others safe from it.
If that kid's family had a dog, then YES it's the parent's job to teach it how to behave around them, how not to aggravate them etc. But to expect all kids, even those that do not have dogs, to NOT look at a scary looking dog, and to NOT run when that same scary dog bolts at them? Please. You are so very far in the wrong there. Even if a little kid IS told they shouldn't run when a scary dog is running at them, pure fear will override that in an instant.
AND then you say you were lectured by 'some dumb fat bitch cop', which aside from lacking any punctuation, also just speaks to YOU being fairly told off and deciding that she was in the wrong because YOU can't admit you almost got a kid killed.
F cking hell. Have a long look at yourself and your ability to be able to blame others for your fuck ups.


I didn't say the kid looked at my dog. I said he STARED at my dog for well over 30 seconds without moving just staring right at him.

Do people normally stare intensely at things that cause them pure fear? I don't. I keep walking and mind my business.

The kid is ignorant as to how to deal with dogs. Whether or not he or his family owns dogs is irrelevant. I learned, from reading, when I was a young kid, how to escape an alligator(Run in a zig zag). I live in Canada so I'm unlikely to be meet an alligator. Kids should at least be educated in how to deal with dogs.

Furthermore, I already said that I screwed up by letting the dog off the leash. My point in telling the story is people should be educated in how to deal with dogs. At least as educated in how to deal with dogs as Canadians are with how to deal with alligators.

And I called the cop a fat, dumb, bitch because she threatened to shoot my dog, when I already had his leash in my hands, because he was excited and wanted to greet her. Also, she was at least 220 lbs and like 5'6 so yeah she was a dumb, fat bitch.

I should have ran away with my dog lol she would never have caught me. Literally 220 lb. female cop. Not 220 lbs of muscle either. She had no business being a cop.

>> ^Matthu:

Well, my dog kept glancing at the kid and back at me, he was ready to bolt but I didn't catch it in time, and he took off after the kid. The kid panicked and raced right into the street, both of them almost got hit by cars. And just then the police were turning the corner and pretty much caught the whole thing. The kid was bawling his eyes out. I got a ticket and a stern lecture from a dumb fat bitch cop.
Whats my point? Well. It's a given that I fucked up my letting my dog off his leash like that. But, I really wish there would be some amount of responsibility on the kid, or his parents for being so ignorant.

Oh come ON! Fucking hell I can't believe that you could actually tell that story with the thought that you're in the right, or the kid is in the wrong at all.

It's NOT the kid who is ignorant in this situation, it's you. To try to say that the kid should know better than to LOOK at an animal, fucking hell. You are fully in the wrong here as YOU are the one that has chosen to own a potentially lethal animal (I'm not singling out pit bulls here, all dogs are that way, and I've had a dog, I have nothing against them), so YOU have the responsibility to keep it safe and to keep others safe from it.

If that kid's family had a dog, then YES it's the parent's job to teach it how to behave around them, how not to aggravate them etc. But to expect all kids, even those that do not have dogs, to NOT look at a scary looking dog, and to NOT run when that same scary dog bolts at them? Please. You are so very far in the wrong there. Even if a little kid IS told they shouldn't run when a scary dog is running at them, pure fear will override that in an instant.

AND then you say you were lectured by 'some dumb fat bitch cop', which aside from lacking any punctuation, also just speaks to YOU being fairly told off and deciding that she was in the wrong because YOU can't admit you almost got a kid killed.

F*cking hell. Have a long look at yourself and your ability to be able to blame others for your fuck ups.

only way i could see this being justified is if this dog had just attacked someone, and was going to be put down anyways. from things i've read, a bullet to the brain can be a lot better than how some shelters put dogs down (heart sticking, etc).

side note:
at an apartment complex i lived at years ago, one of the trashier neighbors for some reason was keeping a "friend's" pit bull (while i like pit bulls, they were not allowed in the complex) and they had it out in the complex off leash and it attacked a small dog. the small dog owner didn't speak english, and the pit bull caretaker was screaming "someone get a knife, we gotta kill it!". it was all kinds of fucked up....
eventually the dog let go, and was put down the next day.

Don't most police carry pepper spray, in addition to guns and batons? Even if they didn't have pepper spray, couldn't two cops have disabled that dog with their batons, had it actually been menacing them?

Now maybe if it was a pit bull that was actually threatening them I could understand the use of deadly force, because those dogs are savage beasts. But this case stinks to high heaven. We have some of the trigger happiest cops in the world.

Check this out...
May 6, 2010

Yesterday, Columbia Police Chief Ken Burton and Mayor Bob McDavid convened a news conference...

Burton said yesterday that investigators should not have executed the warrant because the information was too old. The warrant ... was executed eight days after Boone County Associate Circuit Judge Leslie Schneider approved it. Burton said the state allows police 10 days to execute a signed warrant, and he thinks Columbia officers should have done so immediately...

“It’s my opinion that it needs to be served as soon as possible,” Burton said of the warrant. “The contraband can be disposed of. It they are going to do that, there is not much point in serving the warrant.”

“It was not a mistake to shoot the pit bull,” Burton said. “I wouldn’t be standing here if an officer had been bitten by a pit bull instead of the reverse happening.”

But, back when the incident initially happened...
February 23, 2010

Because the SWAT team acts on the most updated information available, the team wanted to enter the house before marijuana believed to be at the location could be distributed, [police spokeswoman Officer Jessie Haden] said.

“If you let too much time go by, then the drugs are not there,” she said.

If the SWAT team believed they could have executed the warrant successfully during the daytime when the wife and child were not present, they would have, she said.

And now the rest of the story...

Information provided by an informant led investigators to believe Whitworth was in possession of a large amount of marijuana and was considered a distributor. In 2003, Whitworth pleaded guilty to conspiracy to distribute cocaine and marijuana in federal court and was ordered to serve 15 months in federal prison, according to court documents.

Some friend of his probably got arrested and given a deal for being informant (even if the information was made up). The police assumed guilt based upon prior history.

On the dog issue, doesn't SWAT wear like bulletproof vest and heavy duty tactical outfits? Certainly the lead person could have some way of handling a dog and shoot it after it attacks someone. You are attacking someones private property so in my opinion the dog has more business being there. Also, I have a feeling the dog was in his crate, but not locked in. ie. the dog sleeps in his crate and was in his crate but came out and was barking at officers and they shot it. I doubt the shot a dog just to stop it from barking.

Now explain to me what kind of asshole shoots a corgi in the leg?? So maybe they were just looking for animals to execute.