I remember being in the hospital because my baby had jaundice. The nurse handed us a pamphlet and the doctor came in. He explained that if we didn't formula feed he would call the Department of Child Services on us and report us. He almost went so far as to not let us leave until they got there. Apparently he thought it was abuse.

When we pointed out that his own pamphlets PROMOTED BREASTFEEDING AS A MEANS TO GET RID OF JAUNDICE, his nurse GRABBED THE PAMPHLET AND SCRATCHED THAT SECTION OUT.

Suffice to say all dirty diapers were changed by that nurse! We couldn't because "Formula diapers smelled so bad."

Doctors are so fucking owned by the Pharmacy companies, and the formula industry that it's insane. They told nearly all our friends they "were not producing enough milk." And of course our friends breastfed just fucking fine.

I won't go into what a spiritual event breastfeeding is--but let's just say I am for it. And before anyone opens their traps--I have met few (Only one in fact) who flaunted her nipple tits. In fact, one on Facebook tried to start shit and she was blasted because she was at fault. No one came to protest for her dumb ass.

My cards on the table, what I said about "every high school" was actually about Canada. I heard it from a police officer who gives talks about drugs to grade school students. I'm assuming the same is true in America. I'm also going to assume you're not high school aged anymore, and so like me, might have more trouble than the average 16-year-old finding a source.>> ^gwiz665:

We live in very different countries evidently. I have to go to some pretty seedy neighborhoods if I want weed here, which makes the "barrier to entry" relatively high. I'm all for selling it in pharmacies or even on the same level as cigarettes and alcohol. More people will try it, because they can get it legally, and that's fine.
>> ^messenger:
Right. And this bill will make it harder to get weed. Right now, weed is for sale in every high school in America. How much easier could it get? State control of weed would kill the illegal trade.>> ^gwiz665:
No. If it's easier to get it, more will use it. Same with guns.
That doesn't mean we should prohibit either though. Pot is less harmful than guns, or hell, arguably even cigarettes, why are they legal while pot is not?
Arbitrary laws based on flawed morality. Bah humbug.

We live in very different countries evidently. I have to go to some pretty seedy neighborhoods if I want weed here, which makes the "barrier to entry" relatively high. I'm all for selling it in pharmacies or even on the same level as cigarettes and alcohol. More people will try it, because they can get it legally, and that's fine.
>> ^messenger:

Right. And this bill will make it harder to get weed. Right now, weed is for sale in every high school in America. How much easier could it get? State control of weed would kill the illegal trade.>> ^gwiz665:
No. If it's easier to get it, more will use it. Same with guns.
That doesn't mean we should prohibit either though. Pot is less harmful than guns, or hell, arguably even cigarettes, why are they legal while pot is not?
Arbitrary laws based on flawed morality. Bah humbug.

The drug war DEFINITELY costs money and DEFINITELY harms society by harassing and locking people up who would otherwise be working and paying taxes. All to keep substances that range from beneficial to highly addictive from MAYBE causing problems and MAYBE costing money. All while encroaching on our freedoms and rights. I think it would be hard for any reasonable person to argue that substances cause more harm than the "war" on the substances does.

Plus keeping addicts hidden is a great way for a youngster to grow up without realizing how shitty some drugs really are. The more crackheads my kids are exposed to the less likely that they will ever want to try crack, guaranteed. Maybe we could have a drug license (like driver license). You have to take a course and pass a test and be of age and then you can partake of whatever substances float your boat. Plants and plant derivatives could be sold like alcoholic beverages are and pharmacies could sell the rest. Growing your own should be fine just like you can make your own beer or wine. MDMA, LSD-25, opium, and cannabis would be popular while pretty much no-one would buy crack or meth or huff paint or huff gasoline. If you can get safer and better substances easily why would you turn to the shittiest stuff?

-Karl

He speaks sense here. As long as it's under the same laws as say alcohol, "don't smoke and drive" etc. then it should be perfectly legal.

Sell it at pharmacies.

The incindent you are thinking about was in Umeå in Sweden.
http://www.expressen.se/nyheter/1.2180448/stal-dator-men-lamnade-tillbaka-innehallet-pa-usb-minne

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I would think that many carjackers would do something similar - going from carthief to kidnapper or murderer is a big, big step. Thieves usually do it for easy money, extortion is hard money, murder is no money.

I read somewhere, where a university professor got his laptop stolen, the thief returned his files and data on a usb stick in the profs mailbox (but kept the laptop). Saved him a hell of a lot of work having to recreate it, and insurance pays for the laptop anyway, so that was a much smaller hassle. The point is criminals are still people, but usually desperate or weak-willed.

>> ^EMPIRE:

Couple of weeks ago, something similar happened here, except the robber had some sense of decency, and the mother was the idiot.
So this woman stops her car in front of the building she lives in, and leaves the car open, with the key in the ignition, and a 6 or 7 year old child and a toddler inside the car, to go up to the apartment and pick up some stuff.
Some guy comes along and steals the car, with both children still inside.
A few miles away, he stops in front of a pharmacy, and tells the older kid to take his sibling inside because their aunt is supposedly waiting for them inside.
The pharmacist obviously didn't knew who they were, so he took them to a police station.

I would think that many carjackers would do something similar - going from carthief to kidnapper or murderer is a big, big step. Thieves usually do it for easy money, extortion is hard money, murder is no money.

I read somewhere, where a university professor got his laptop stolen, the thief returned his files and data on a usb stick in the profs mailbox (but kept the laptop). Saved him a hell of a lot of work having to recreate it, and insurance pays for the laptop anyway, so that was a much smaller hassle. The point is criminals are still people, but usually desperate or weak-willed.

>> ^EMPIRE:

Couple of weeks ago, something similar happened here, except the robber had some sense of decency, and the mother was the idiot.
So this woman stops her car in front of the building she lives in, and leaves the car open, with the key in the ignition, and a 6 or 7 year old child and a toddler inside the car, to go up to the apartment and pick up some stuff.
Some guy comes along and steals the car, with both children still inside.
A few miles away, he stops in front of a pharmacy, and tells the older kid to take his sibling inside because their aunt is supposedly waiting for them inside.
The pharmacist obviously didn't knew who they were, so he took them to a police station.

Couple of weeks ago, something similar happened here, except the robber had some sense of decency, and the mother was the idiot.

So this woman stops her car in front of the building she lives in, and leaves the car open, with the key in the ignition, and a 6 or 7 year old child and a toddler inside the car, to go up to the apartment and pick up some stuff.

Some guy comes along and steals the car, with both children still inside.

A few miles away, he stops in front of a pharmacy, and tells the older kid to take his sibling inside because their aunt is supposedly waiting for them inside.
The pharmacist obviously didn't knew who they were, so he took them to a police station.

>> ^coolhund:

They dont actually keep us sick, but they keep us close.
For example here in Germany its much more profitable to dish out cheap drugs than to actually try to heal with other options.
Some, not all, exploit this. Its actually common knowledge. For example dentists use low quality fillings so that people have to come more often or doctors use drugs first on any case, so they can get more money from the patient.
I have to say its mainly here in Germany because of our 2-class health system which has many holes, but I could very well imagine its not much different elsewhere.
For example the 2-class system allows doctors to treat one of the class with significantly less effective methods, because the effective methods are more expensive. Also they arent allowed to treat too many people of the lower class. Well they are allowed, but they only get money for a certain number. If they exceed that number they dont get money for the ones that are over that number. So they try to stall them until a new months starts or just give them drugs that wont help (they get money for prescribing drugs).
That has nothing to do with doctors trying to heal people. Its all about the money.
You just have to look at the sheer numbers of pharmacies in this country. Even in very small towns its common that there are 3-5 of them in the same street. They make a lot of money from these practices.
If there is a possibility to exploit something and get money from it, people WILL use those exploits.
Oh and I didnt get that from the Internet, I got it from personal experience in both classes, statistics that are openly available plus my brother actually works in a pharmaceutical firm.


Everything in the below stated comment is a product of a shitty system, not shitty doctors. Blame your politicians.

They dont actually keep us sick, but they keep us close.
For example here in Germany its much more profitable to dish out cheap drugs than to actually try to heal with other options.
Some, not all, exploit this. Its actually common knowledge. For example dentists use low quality fillings so that people have to come more often or doctors use drugs first on any case, so they can get more money from the patient.
I have to say its mainly here in Germany because of our 2-class health system which has many holes, but I could very well imagine its not much different elsewhere.
For example the 2-class system allows doctors to treat one of the class with significantly less effective methods, because the effective methods are more expensive. Also they arent allowed to treat too many people of the lower class. Well they are allowed, but they only get money for a certain number. If they exceed that number they dont get money for the ones that are over that number. So they try to stall them until a new months starts or just give them drugs that wont help (they get money for prescribing drugs).
That has nothing to do with doctors trying to heal people. Its all about the money.

You just have to look at the sheer numbers of pharmacies in this country. Even in very small towns its common that there are 3-5 of them in the same street. They make a lot of money from these practices.

If there is a possibility to exploit something and get money from it, people WILL use those exploits.
Oh and I didnt get that from the Internet, I got it from personal experience in both classes, statistics that are openly available plus my brother actually works in a pharmaceutical firm.

Actually, looking back, my whole ordeal with getting my wisdom teeth out sucked, I really WISH I was like this guy.

After I woke up, my mom drove me to a grocery store/pharmacy so we could pick my drugs up (tylenol 3) and she could get groceries while we wait because it usually takes twenty mins to get the stuff ready.

I was fully aware of everything that was going on, the only difference between me then and me now was my bottom lip was frozen and highly swollen, and my freezing was wearing off.

This wouldn't have been as much of an issue if this grocery store wasn't somewhere I worked prior, and had friends constantly coming up to me to chat. I looked like a retard with my bottom lip swollen and sticking out like an inch because I couldn't close it properly, I had to tuck it under my top lip to make it look alright.

Then for a week, I had to sleep on a couch because sleeping on my bed made me roll, and rolling with swollen cheeks = bad. After 3 days of constant intense pain, we went back to the dentist who told us to get Perkisets instead because all the tylenol 3 did was knock me out, not kill any pain. 3 days after that, it turns out I had an infection in two of the holes (both on the same side of the mouth) which I got to "Squeeze" out daily and spit it into a sink. My entire healing process took roughly 2.5 weeks before I could open my mouth wider then an inch.

So, I leave with this warning.. if you don't need them removed, but they want to do it anyway.. punch them in the goddamn face.

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... but there's simply not enough Pharmacy Affiliate Program's on the sift.

Most importantly, I wasn't suggesting that the current setup is in any way acceptable, only that what @ghark alluded to wasn't accurate.

Exactly what sort of life-saving surgery can be done at the GP's office? Or were you just trying to change the topic? Argumentum ad misericordiam.

>> ^Stormsinger:
Sure, they'll give you the surgery, if you survive the delays in getting around to it. And you're responsible for a bill that you have absolutely no way to pay. Then guess what, you get to declare bankruptcy.
And that's not even beginning to ask -why- we want the hospital to be supplying medical care that -could- have been handled for a tenth the cost by a GP at his office. But the GP won't see anyone who doesn't have either insurance or cash...and if he does, the pharmacy sure as hell isn't going to give you your meds unless you can pay.
So we get tens of thousands of people dying each year because they don't have insurance and can't afford care. But that's okay, because hospitals are required to treat them.
Every other industrialized country in the world can do it...but the richest one is too stupid or too incompetent to provide even minimal health care to all its citizens. It blows my mind that people can be so pessimistic about our country.