this doesn't make atheists want to do anything. it's mostly horse shit based on gross misunderstandings. cramming old metaphors into new ones.

Okay. I know last year I took you for more a religiously indoctrinated theist.

Tho since you posted this I think I have you pegged more as one of my 311 lovin', new age spiritualist, hippie peers.

I know you guys all really want consciousness to be a fundamental unit of time and space..

..but it's not. There's no need.

Consciousness is simply the result of the electrical impulses that shoot from one cell to another.

No matter, no cells, no consciousness.

I think you guys just reeeeally want to think that your existence is more meaningful.

And that's alright but it's a waste of time & brain power.

You'll never know one way or the other.. so why waste so much thought on the assumption?

>> ^GenjiKilpatrick:

Okay. I know last year I took you for more a religiously indoctrinated theist.
Tho since you posted this I think I have you pegged more as one of my 311 lovin', new age spiritualist, hippie peers.
I know you guys all really want consciousness to be a fundamental unit of time and space..
..but it's not. There's no need.
Consciousness is simply the result of the electrical impulses that shoot from one cell to another.
No matter, no cells, no consciousness.
I think you guys just reeeeally want to think that your existence is more meaningful.
And that's alright but it's a waste of time & brain power.
You'll never know one way or the other.. so why waste so much thought on the assumption?


so because i posted a deepak chopra video it MUST mean this is my philosophy?
i posted a video about conjuring annubus..does that mean i practice solomonic magik also?
your logic is flawed genji.
i do not have to agree with deepak chopra to find his conflations interesting or see poetry in a persons desire to understand things that may be out of their reach.
the answers may change over time but i will always find the question FAR more interesting.it appears by your comment that we should not even ask the question,though you do not judge this either good nor bad...just futile..because we cannot know.
i disagree violently with that train of thought because if we dont ASK the question,the process to reaching an answer never starts and we risk stagnation.
we need to ask the questions...any question... and strive to answer that question.

what IS consciousness?
you say "Consciousness is simply the result of the electrical impulses that shoot from one cell to another."
now i disagree with that statement simply for its incompleteness but allow me to point out that your quote is not an answer but rather a statement pertaining to bio-mechanics but does not answer the question of consciousness.

as for me being a religiously indoctrinated theist...
uh...no.
i am vehemently anti-religion and while i have many reasons for this one of my main problems with organized religion is the stagnation of humanity,mentally as well as spiritually.
religion limits.
it confines and constrains the human spirit to a tiny ball of doctrine.
while religion does give some people a sense of peace and comfort,it is not the religious people that i am speaking of but rather the hiearchal doctrine makers of the church elite who perpetuate doctrine to keep people fearful and submissive in order to keep themselves relevant.
i teach cultural religious history NOT to perpetuate this system but rather to give a broader context using historical text that chips away at the doctrine put forth by the church as the UN-erring word of god.
i challenge the fundamentalist mentality that traps the imagination and stagnates the mind.
i seek to free my fellow man from the confines of religion.

i am a man of faith yet i am part of a community which is mostly atheist.
ever wonder why?
i dont preach..
i never attempt to convert..well..anyone.
you will never see me chastise a person for lacking faith or having faith in something i disagree with.
so why would i frequent a site populated by atheists?
statistics have shown that people tend to congregate with like-minded people..so what the fuck am i doing here?

one last thing before i go and this becomes a blog and no longer a comment.
a piece of advice in your future evaluation of people.
your first impression of me was that of me being a religious person and then it changed to me being a hippie new-ager,both were wrong.
the reason is presuming the intentions based solely (and simply) on a persons posts and random comments.
this is very....human,,but it also conflates perfectly to our discussion:consciousness.
now how could you possibly have a picture of me based on such little information?
quite simple..you based your deduction on your own prejudices and biases.
how did you get these biases? living,experiencing and learning.
but those biases had little..or nothing..to do with me.
so while presumption and assumption are integrally human and something we do naturally,it behooves us to refrain from following the first base impression and instead delve deeper.you WILL be surprised at what people will reveal to you (not always but often enough).

i hope this comment is received with the respect that was intended.
always a pleasure genji.
and thanks for the vote even though you disagreed with the content..very cool of you my friend.

to enoch:

You know religions are full of corrupt people who put themselves first. True and True.

Genji is a japanese clan/period Don't think GenJIKIlpatrick is anything japanese?

If I tear into your video, because I see huckster philosophy and snakeoil spirituality, can't you understand where I'm coming from? You and me, being burned by religious people, you and me should understand why I have a reaction to new age charlatans. If I trigger on a false impression, please forgive me, I'm only human.

Anyhow I love sharing my own spiritual experiences, and they've taught me to value the Lord in heaven whenever i can see his will more than any mathematics of vibration.

>> ^marinara:

to enoch:
You know religions are full of corrupt people who put themselves first. True and True.
Genji is a japanese clan/period Don't think GenJIKIlpatrick is anything japanese?
If I tear into your video, because I see huckster philosophy and snakeoil spirituality, can't you understand where I'm coming from? You and me, being burned by religious people, you and me should understand why I have a reaction to new age charlatans. If I trigger on a false impression, please forgive me, I'm only human.
Anyhow I love sharing my own spiritual experiences, and they've taught me to value the Lord in heaven whenever i can see his will more than any mathematics of vibration.


tear away my friend.
i post only to add to the conversation.
i find the responses....interesting.

All the new age stuff is basically just another god of the gaps. Explaining something by making it overly complex and mysterious and using words from science (like quantum... oooh) in wrong ways.


"If you could see the body as it truly is"
We do. We do not see every detail, like we only see a tiny sliver of the universe from our small perspective. We are seeing it from a perspective, that doesn't make the perspective any less true. Dawkins calls it "the middle world". We see what is needed for our survival.

>> ^gwiz665:

All the new age stuff is basically just another god of the gaps. Explaining something by making it overly complex and mysterious and using words from science (like quantum... oooh) in wrong ways.

"If you could see the body as it truly is"
We do. We do not see every detail, like we only see a tiny sliver of the universe from our small perspective. We are seeing it from a perspective, that doesn't make the perspective any less true. Dawkins calls it "the middle world". We see what is needed for our survival.


interesting. now I have something to think on. And I'll have to google god of gaps, i've seen that phrase a couple times now don't know what it means.

God of the Gaps is a pretty easy concept. It's seeing god wherever we cannot explain something yet.

If you look at the history of science, you can see how science have advanced into different areas and god has receded back into the remaining gaps of knowledge. As long as there are unknowns, I fear that some people will see god in them.

>> ^marinara:

>> ^gwiz665:
All the new age stuff is basically just another god of the gaps. Explaining something by making it overly complex and mysterious and using words from science (like quantum... oooh) in wrong ways.

"If you could see the body as it truly is"
We do. We do not see every detail, like we only see a tiny sliver of the universe from our small perspective. We are seeing it from a perspective, that doesn't make the perspective any less true. Dawkins calls it "the middle world". We see what is needed for our survival.

interesting. now I have something to think on. And I'll have to google god of gaps, i've seen that phrase a couple times now don't know what it means.

Moving this video to enoch's personal queue. It failed to receive enough votes to get sifted up to the front page within 2 days.