They cooked up all the other evidence.. what is wrong with a little bit more? LOL

Of course we realize this. But as the government has indicated many times in the past, the voices of ordinary Americans play no part in political decision making, even in large groups. So it's kind of a moot point.

*news

Adding video to channels (News) - requested by NetRunner.

...and Dupe:

(It's the last part of that particular night's Bushed segment)

I'm happy to discard mine, though.

Edit: Discarded mine, enjoy dead_tofu!

thanks,we are fighting for the same cause....operation american freedom

Our Chinese great-grandchildren would read about this in their textbooks, if the world wasn't destroyed by nuclear-capable melting icebergs from Mars by then.

Of course they're making it up! How else are they supposed to secure their oil interests in the Middle East? Do you expect them to fall in line and simply let their self-interest fall by the wayside? Get real.

I don't understand this clip. The US's initial investigation linked the siezed weapons to Iran. A deeper investigation disproved that, so they never mentioned anything about Iran. They had planned too, but when the data said otherwise they didn't. What's so bad? According to the clip, they hadn't even insinuated that the weapons had anything to do with Iran at the press conference.

Also Al Qaeda doesn't have an air force or a navy so they couldn't be a threat either, right? People are so wrapped up in their hate for Bush that they refuse to believe Iran could actually be a legitimate threat. Do you want a country who arms terrorists, who wants to destroy Israel, who denies the holocaust, and who regularly chants "death to America" in parliament to have nuclear weapons? I don't. I didn't want North Korea or Pakistan to have them either.

...or Canadians...

>> ^rychan:
I don't understand this clip. The US's initial investigation linked the siezed weapons to Iran. A deeper investigation disproved that, so they never mentioned anything about Iran. They had planned too, but when the data said otherwise they didn't. What's so bad? According to the clip, they hadn't even insinuated that the weapons had anything to do with Iran at the press conference.
Also Al Qaeda doesn't have an air force or a navy so they couldn't be a threat either, right? People are so wrapped up in their hate for Bush that they refuse to believe Iran could actually be a legitimate threat. Do you want a country who arms terrorists, who wants to destroy Israel, who denies the holocaust, and who regularly chants "death to America" in parliament to have nuclear weapons? I don't. I didn't want North Korea or Pakistan to have them either.


Al Qaeda does not have 1000+ yrs of history of culture, 100+ cities and tens of millions of inhabitants. When did their president say they wanted to destroy Isreal? Are you sure you have not been misinformed by your media? Oh, and ranting death to America in their parliament, is there exsisting footage of that somewhere? If there is, then maybe it back from the time the fanatics came to power. Thats some decades ago,im afraid. Plese do remember why they came to power, it had some with the U.S installing a puppet king in Iran, who let the U.S and the U.K take care of all their oil. Oddly enough, those 2 exact same countries are now in Iraq......funny.

I'm the one who's mislead?

Holocaust denial, 2005 "In a 14 December speech in the city of Zahedan in southeastern Sistan va Baluchistan Province, Ahmadinejad said that if the Holocaust took place in Europe and Europeans feel so guilty about it, then that is where Israel should be located, state television reported. "They have created a myth today and they call it the massacre of the Jews [the Holocaust],"
http://www.rferl.org/content/article/1063865.html

Threat to is Isreal, 2005 "This week, Hamas head Khalid Mish'al visited Tehran. Designated a foreign terrorist organization by the U.S. State Department, Hamas advocates the destruction of Israel. "Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it," ... Mish'al told Ahmadinejad on 12 December that Hamas appreciates Iran's stance against Israel generally and the president's "insistence on the illegitimate nature of Israel,""
http://www.rferl.org/content/article/1063865.html

Threat to Isreal, 2005 and 2001 "Mr Ahmadinejad told some 3,000 students in Tehran that Israel's establishment had been a move by the West against the Islamic world. He was addressing a conference entitled The World without Zionism and his comments were reported by the Iranian state news agency Irna. "As the Imam said, Israel must be wiped off the map," he said, referring to Iran's late revolutionary leader, Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini. In 2001, former Iranian president Hashemi Rafsanjani speculated that a Muslim state that developed a nuclear weapon might use it to destroy Israel. ... Mr Ahmadinejad warned leaders of Muslim nations who recognised the state of Israel that they faced "the wrath of their own people". "
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4378948.stm

Threat to Isreal, June 2nd 2008, Ahmadinejad "The Zionist regime has lost its raison d'être. Today, the Palestinians identify with your name [Khomeini], your memory, and in your path. They are walking in your illuminated path and the Zionist regime has reached a total dead end. Thanks to God, your wish will soon be realized, and this germ of corruption will be wiped off."

"Death to America" is still a very popular chant. Here it is at a recent rally http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUezKsBCRbk

Here's an article talking about its use in parliament recently
http://www.poe-news.com/stories.php?poeurlid=41572

Here's an article mentioning Ahmadinejad's use of the phrase recently
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/us_world/2007/09/23/2007-09-23_irans_ahmadinejad_issues_new_threats_aga.html

I'm not condoning what the US and CIA did in Iran. I'm not talking about that at all. I'm saying that Iran might actually be dangerous.

hamas fights for the palestinians, they are extreme, but so would some hillibillies in texas be after 60 years of chinese-occupation, trust me. Iran takes their side, there is no need to explain that to anyone, even i almost take their side. i´ve known palestinians thru my life, i can tell you if someone mistreated my people as the isrealis have treated them, i would fxxking *?`Ü#+´?§/%$%&/$$%§$§$6..........hamas says one thing, the president of iran has a solution http://www.videosift.com/video/American-propaganda-at-its-bestand-wins-an-Emmy

about the rants, they need an enemy to stay in power, just like the leaders of the u.s and the u.s.s.r during the cold war, were they gonna bomb each other,no! but it sure made it easier for them to stay in power when the had foreign enemies. leave the middle east alone and they leave you alone. look and holland, whores legally on every corner and even drugs legal,oh, and women gained equal rights there earlier than in the u.s why are the not under siege from the wrath of the middle east?


the holocaust with a capital h, i think he is just playing around technial stuff. hitler did give jews the chance to leave germany before they shipped them to camps, until ´41 or ´42 i think, not sure, but therefore it can not be called a genocide, or a holocaust,technically, some professor once said or something,im getting tired........ hey, the holocaust thing, does that just include the jews, like the 100s of grey stones in downtown berlin today? what about the all the politacal prisoners,mental-folks,gays......thats it , i´ve lost it finally....... gone to bed.

>> ^dead_tofu:
hamas fights for the palestinians, they are extreme, but so would some hillibillies in texas be after 60 years of chinese-occupation, trust me. Iran takes their side, there is no need to explain that to anyone, even i almost take their side. i´ve known palestinians thru my life, i can tell you if someone mistreated my people as the isrealis have treated them, i would fxxking ?`Ü#+´?§/%$%&/$$%§$§$6..........hamas says one thing, the president of iran has a solution http://www.videosift.com/video/American-propaganda-at-its-bestand-wins-an-Emmy
about the rants, they need an enemy to stay in power, just like the leaders of the u.s and the u.s.s.r during the cold war, were they gonna bomb each other,no! but it sure made it easier for them to stay in power when the had foreign enemies. leave the middle east alone and they leave you alone. look and holland, whores legally on every corner and even drugs legal,oh, and women gained equal rights there earlier than in the u.s why are the not under siege from the wrath of the middle east?
the holocaust with a capital h, i think he is just playing around technial stuff. hitler did give jews the chance to leave germany before they shipped them to camps, until ´41 or ´42 i think, not sure, but therefore it can not be called a genocide, or a holocaust,technically, some professor once said or something,im getting tired........ hey, the holocaust thing, does that just include the jews, like the 100s of grey stones in downtown berlin today? what about the all the politacal prisoners,mental-folks,gays......thats it , i´ve lost it finally....... gone to bed.


He planed to take over the world, isn't them leaving a moot point when you have taken over the world? His ideas of genocide, like you point out, wasn't only jew but anyone that didn't fit in with his idea of the uberman. Genocide was his calling card really; fit in or die. And once again, his plan was for world domination, so it was fit in world or die; I think both the terms Holocaust and genocide apply as did the world at the time.

Some of the things that Ahmadinejad has said have been taken out of context.
Perhaps we should first and foremost actually get the whole context of the speech? Sounds good, eh? Also translations can very slightly creating many different meanings if only reading the end product. Maybe we should investigate that also?

Anyway, here is an article for your browsing:

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article12790.htm


BTW, I agree that Iran might actually be dangerous, but I would like to not see people played for dupes again.