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UFC 121: Brock Lesnar vs Cain Velasquez

GuyFawkessays...

I dont get this "sport", give me boxing anyday. For "professional" athletes they sure struggle after 2mins. Maybe its a gen y instant gratification thing... maybe im old.

GenjiKilpatricksays...

Goddamnit. Why do we always have this discussion?

First.
The only person who's struggling after two minutes is Lesnar.

He's a transplant from "professional" wrestling. Which is why he sucks.
He has no skill. No Endurance. And no clue what to do inside an octagon.

Lesnar was only the champion cause he's built like a grizzly bear/tank/meat shield hybrid.

He is essentially baby huey.

Shane Carwin almost beat him. Frank Mir did once before. He sucks and everyone knows it.

Second.
Of course it's a sport old fogey.

Are you really gonna sit there and try to tell everyone that
- FIGHTING ANOTHER HUMAN BEING FOR 15 TO 25 MINTUES STRAIGHT! -
doesn't take any athleticism, technique, training or endurance?

Fer cereal? = /

>> ^GuyFawkes:

I dont get this "sport", give me boxing anyday. For "professional" athletes they sure struggle after 2mins. Maybe its a gen y instant gratification thing... maybe im old.

nach0ssays...

What I don't get is why they call him the first Mexican to win an MMA title. He's an American citizen. Ok, if they said Hispanic, that'd make more sense. I guess they're trying to raise the Hispanic and Mexican viewership, but it's a shame it is in an ignorant way.

budzossays...

I enjoy a good UFC match and the surrounding drama, but does anyone else wish they'd go back to the days of UFC I through III where it was a lot more like Street Fighter II? It used to be a crazy clash of styles and personalities... now everyone does "MMA style striking plus grappling" and the main difference between fighters is their specific mix of striking (do they also kick?) and grappling (are they former wrestlers or life-long jiu-jitsu practicioners?).

I've always thought of sports as a substitute for combat... all those guys in the NHL, NBA, NFL would have been renowned warriors if they were born vikings, celts, moors, vassals, etc. at certain times throughout history. They do sports because they're extraordinarily good with their bodies... biomechanical geniuses. Fortunately their placement in time allows them to use these skills to their own betterment without mortal risk. Because sports are only analagous to combat. So I can appreciate the point of putting the words "sport" in sarcasm-quotes when talking about a sport that is about beating the shit out of another person. Once the sport becomes actual combat, the metaphor is so direct (if all sports are a metaphor for combat) that instead of a "sport" they should just call it "professional combat". Of course, this is just semantic wankery. It's a sport.

GenjiKilpatricksays...

I miss Pride even with all it's head stomping douchery.

WEC is good cause their fights are more technical .

Lighter weight classes means a smaller portion are heavy handed.

Carlos Condit is on this card too. He's was a WEC badass that switched to UFC cause he's REEALLY good at beatin' people up.

Tho yeah, the only unorthodox fighters in the UFC are Lyoto Machida and Anderson Silva really.

Oh well, UFC became all about the revenue as soon as Dana White took over.
You can't really expect a whole lot after that.. = p

I guess I wish there was more judo in MMA in general. That's rather fun to watch. =]

xxovercastxxsays...

>> ^budzos:

I enjoy a good UFC match and the surrounding drama, but does anyone else wish they'd go back to the days of UFC I through III where it was a lot more like Street Fighter II?


Style clash is certainly intriguing to think about, but rarely seems to play out as a good fight.

It is nice when you see someone come in with a unique feature, talent or approach to fighting: Lyoto Machida & Anderson Silva (as GK says), Genki Sudo, Megumi Fujii, Cung Le, Karo Parisyan... These fighters all do (or did) things that made them stand apart whether they were successful or not.

bcglorfsays...

Lesnar was only the champion cause he's built like a grizzly bear/tank/meat shield hybrid.

I dunno, if I could choose a fighting style I'd be pretty happy to use a grizzly bear/tank/meat shield hybrid. Too bad you can't teach how to become 6' 4 and 270 pounds.

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