And I bet you can't buy any of the in the States. Why is that?

>> ^GreatBird:
And I bet you can't buy any of the in the States. Why is that?


Nope. They're all diesels, and there's very few diesels available in the US, fewer and fewer each year. But even the diesels that are available don't get near the 53-80 mpg of these 3 cars. The best mileage light diesel of the last 5 years was the VW New Beetle and it only got 42 MPG, and it was discontinued 2 years ago.

As far as I know, there has never been a car mass produced in America that has gotten 80 MPG, no diesel, gas or hybrid.

And people wonder why cars don't sell in the states.

I can do that too - I just need to install a double-size gas tank.

>> ^HollywoodBob:
>> ^GreatBird:
And I bet you can't buy any of the in the States. Why is that?

Nope. They're all diesels, and there's very few diesels available in the US, fewer and fewer each year. But even the diesels that are available don't get near the 53-80 mpg of these 3 cars. The best mileage light diesel of the last 5 years was the VW New Beetle and it only got 42 MPG, and it was discontinued 2 years ago.

Ford and GM did have a diesel car back in the 70's which got pretty good mileage even by today's standards. Now only VW and Mercedes sell diesel cars in the US. The 2-door VW Golf TDI was the milage king, followed by the Jetta TDI and then the Beetle TDI, and the Beetle does way better than 42 MPG.

VW didn't put offer a diesel in the US from 2007 until late 2008 because the new emissions required ULSD fuel, which wasn't widely available. The 2009 model year has two diesels, the Jetta and Jetta Wagon, soon to be followed by other models. I've heard that Honda and Subaru are bringing diesels over here in the US in 2010.

The EPA had to change the way it did it's mileage testing because the numbers they published for hypbrids were nearly impossible to achieve in real world driving. The new way they do their testing is more accurate for hypbrids and gas engines but it way underestimates diesels, and even the EPA has admitted it doesn't accurately reflect real world diesel mileage.

The new Jetta and Jetta Wagon with the 2L TDI has an EPA rating of 30/41, but every car magazine that has reviewed it has gotten nearly 60 MPG highway with it.

I drive a 2005 Jetta Wagon TDI (1.9L). The EPA sticker for it said 32/43, which was under the old test method, the new test rates it at 28/32. I actually get better than what the original sticker had. I average 42MPG each tank, and can go over 700 miles between fillups. I've done 52MPG on the highway, and city driving I get 36-38 MPG. I've been keeping track of my mileage and my worst tank was 32.8MPG, and mine is an automatic. The same car with a manual gets almost 10 MPG more than the auto.

They did a show a while back where they drove an Audi V8 diesel on an 800 mile round trip. I know it was posted here, but I can't find it.

And BTW, the title should read "Top Gear 750+ miles on a single tank of diesel. It would be a impressive go get even 1 mile on a tank of gas in a diesel car.

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