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I'm pretty sure money inspired the greatest art, music and architecture.

Inspired? I don't think so. Made possible and influenced/dictated the content? Absolutely.

>> ^Kofi:

I'm pretty sure money inspired the greatest art, music and architecture.

It has been voted one of the funniest movies of all time. That, in itself, speaks volumes. The film follows one of the countless false prophets of the time and, in no way, was meant to undermine the integrity of their own false prophet. And for MUGgeridge to claim that; "that incarnation was what our whole civilisation began with, and that ALL art, music etc, was inspired by it," is an insult to those who came before it. Time to consign the last of these cults to history, before they succeed in taking us all back to the dark ages.

that bishop... geez... such a huge pompous ass.

and The Life of Brian is indeed one of the funniest best criticisms of religion put on film.

that whole scene when one of Brian's sandals fall off, and they treat it as a religious relic, and then there's the other group who already had the gourd he had "bought" at the market who also thought it was a religious relic, and in that precise moment, two distinct sects of a religion appear from a completely stupid point. love it!

I mean to say that money is what the rich(ie kings and the catholic church) had so that they could afford to commission great works of art from genius artists and artisans. Very few "great artists" ever profited from their own work.

So, @hpqp I agree wholeheartedly but I just didnt word it right.

Right on! That is also one of my favorite scenes in, yes, probably still one of my top-10 films. It is stuff like that where we see the most crippling critique of religion in this film--questioning the very psychological foundations of religious belief itself (also fantastically illustrated in this scene and its many shouts of "It's a Miracle!"). But that flies all the way over the heads of the bishop and his little buddy here, who instead obsess over superficial gags like cross singing and people failing to fall weeping to their knees while viewing the sermon on the mount.
>> ^EMPIRE:

and The Life of Brian is indeed one of the funniest best criticisms of religion put on film.
that whole scene when one of Brian's sandals fall off, and they treat it as a religious relic, and then there's the other group who already had the gourd he had "bought" at the market who also thought it was a religious relic, and in that precise moment, two distinct sects of a religion appear from a completely stupid point. love it!

concider the lillies!

I love how their best argument is just calling the film juvenile.

And yes, John Cleese is correct. We have progressed. And even more since this interview. It's nice to be able to stand back and see how far the world has come, with no signs of slowing down.

*british

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>> ^Kofi:

I'm pretty sure money inspired the greatest art, music and architecture.


I'm certain that whatever an individual personally worships, is what they themselves are convinced inspire "the greatest art".

This isn't a slight against Kofi: I read your comment first before I had watched far enough to see the moment from the clip that inspired it, but thought of this aspect when hearing the gentleman from the church preach his perspective on it. The guy clearly spends so much time with his face in the bible, that he sees it everywhere when he finally looks up. Today our culture is clearly told to worship money, so it's easy to see its influence in everything (even if it's not there).

Just an opinion (inspired by money!!!!!)

I loved this sooo much.

Also I believe that with the finding of the Book of Judas we can safely say that the 30 Pieces of Silver line is no longer correct anyways because Judas betrayed no one.

You are right. I am putting forward that hunger is what "inspired" great artists of the renaissance era etc. It's easy to think of these artists as experimental layabouts the likes of which artist today are portrayed but given that most of the great artists of religious works lived in poverty and were commissioned to paint specific genres of work by the aristocracy wishing to espouse their holiness etc it is false to say that god inspired the artists per se. God may have inspired rich people to spend their money showing how holy they were or wanted to be portrayed to be.

>> ^artician:

>> ^Kofi:
I'm pretty sure money inspired the greatest art, music and architecture.

I'm certain that whatever an individual personally worships, is what they themselves are convinced inspire "the greatest art".
This isn't a slight against Kofi: I read your comment first before I had watched far enough to see the moment from the clip that inspired it, but thought of this aspect when hearing the gentleman from the church preach his perspective on it. The guy clearly spends so much time with his face in the bible, that he sees it everywhere when he finally looks up. Today our culture is clearly told to worship money, so it's easy to see its influence in everything (even if it's not there).
Just an opinion (inspired by money!!!!!)

Captions for the heavy accent? Ha!

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