The E L E P H A N T in the Room

The Elephant in the Room is a documentary following British filmmaker Dean Puckett through his journey into the 9/11 Truth Movement-
spoco2says...

First off, let me say that

I tried to give this a chance, but it continues the standard truther shite:
* People who were there heard and felt various bangs and sounds etc. and so therefore it must be bombs. Or... you know, perhaps just complete misquoting, or lying, or misremembering from the person that says it?. Here is his quote to a CNN correspondant:

"I was in the basement, which is the support floor for the maintenance company, and we hear like a big rumble. Not like an impact, like a rumble, like moving furniture in a massive way. And all of sudden we hear another rumble, and a guy comes running, running into our office, and all of skin was off his body. All of the skin."


Here he says that the man was coming from the basement, and yet if you read the transcript of his interview with the CNN person it's clear that the person came from AN ELEVATOR that had COME DOWN... not someone coming from the basement as he says here.

Sorry, but this is the sort of shit that the 'truther' movement hangs off, completely fallible individual statements, that no matter how often they are shown to be false or incorrect, or mis-quoted, they use them as FACT and the TRUTH...

Utterly infuriating bullshit.

I'm not going to downvote, and I think people should see that this is the best that the 'truther' movement can come up with.



Look, I have NO ISSUE with people wanting to get clear information of who was actually responsible for 9/11, as it does indeed seem as it wasn't Osama, and had nothing at all to do with Iraq/Sadam. BUT... to then start wanking on about controlled demolitions, about it being a job done by the US government is UTTERLY insane. Sorry, but just stopping and thinking about the insanity of organising the planes to hit the buildings AND somehow rig them to explode and control their demolition later (in such a way that there are NO explosion sounds) AND somehow make that all secret... it makes no sense.

It makes FAR more sense that it actually WAS a terrorist attack that the US government seized on as a great opportunity to enforce horrendous laws and treat their citizens like criminals and invade a country they wanted to under bogus pretenses... THAT is believable, THAT you can back up with hard facts.

The 'truther' bullshit of it being a US planned attack? Give me a f*cking break.

Draxsays...

Later this video goes into the fatal lung problems all the first responders are now suffering from. I really appreciated seeing that here as you don't get that from any of the other videos ('least the ones I've seen).

I also make it standard practice not to judge (vote) or comment on a movie unless I've watched it in it's entirety.

spoco2says...

>> ^Drax:
Later this video goes into the fatal lung problems all the first responders are now suffering from. I really appreciated seeing that here as you don't get that from any of the other videos ('least the ones I've seen).
I also make it standard practice not to judge (vote) or comment on a movie unless I've watched it in it's entirety.


I find it very hard to spend any more of my time watching a movie that so early on drags out an account that has been shown to be inaccurate and misleading. I have a friend who is a long gone 'truther' and I have spent some time in the past trying to discount his ramblings. But the problem is, unless you don't have much of a life, and have oodles of free time to go and hunt all the actual truth out on the matters, you'll never get through to these people as they DO spend countless hours self reinforcing themselves with circular arguments and pseudo science.

So... I gave this doco a chance, but as soon as it rolled out the ol' faithful tricks, I had to give up and spend my time elsewhere.

rougysays...

You know, Spoco, a lot of people heard explosions on that day.

The 911 commission was warned by Ashcroft and Rumsfeld about their investigation.

Somebody took all of those surveillance camera tapes of the alleged plane hitting the Pentagon and we still haven't seen any of them, save for the one that supposedly proves a plane hit.

I like you, man, but it's not bullshit.

What infuriates me is the people who are just swallowing all of this hook line and sinker without considering all of the variables, not least of which was this: 9/11 gave the Bush administration the reason it needed to invade Iraq, which was one of its primary goals from its first days in office.

Frankly I think that's one of the reasons America is fucked: the people who pulled off 9/11 are still out there, and they'll do something like that again someday, when they need a reason to invade, say, Iran.

rougysays...

And another thing why an "inside job" makes so much more sense than the "terrorist conspiracy" - Bush & Cheney blocked the 9/11 investigation every step of the way.

From day one.

And all of the people involved in the so-called glitches in the system were protected and promoted.

And as a result of the war, Boeing and all of the other defense contractors like KBR started making money hand over fist again.

And the Pentagon was about to be investigated for 2.3 trillion dollars that it couldn't account for, and I believe the investigation was subsequently dropped after the attack.

I'm sorry, but there are just too many aspects of this event that don't make sense.

siftbotsays...

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