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Of course money is made out of war. The USA made, apparently, vast amounts out of WW2. The arms industry, however, did not push for WW2 to make money, events pushed us into it, and money was made. I, for one, don't begrudge them for doing so because without them a "just" war would have been lost. What is a "just" war? Well, that's the big question, and one that must be answered before men, woman and children are sacrificed for profit.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Is_a_Racket

@A10anis
WWII was an economic and resource war. As was every war the US has been in.
"Just" is a matter of perspective.
Vast sums were made by war profiteering during the war, but that paled in comparison to the influx of wealth following WWII and american global domination.

>> ^criticalthud:

@A10anis
WWII was an economic and resource war. As was every war the US has been in.
"Just" is a matter of perspective.
Vast sums were made by war profiteering during the war, but that paled in comparison to the influx of wealth following WWII and american global domination.


For you to say; "WWII was an economic and resource war. As was every war the US has been in." leaves you in the unenviable position of being an utterly ignorant commentator on issues you don't understand. Shush.

>> ^A10anis:

>> ^criticalthud:
@A10anis
WWII was an economic and resource war. As was every war the US has been in.
"Just" is a matter of perspective.
Vast sums were made by war profiteering during the war, but that paled in comparison to the influx of wealth following WWII and american global domination.

For you to say; "WWII was an economic and resource war. As was every war the US has been in." leaves you in the unenviable position of being an utterly ignorant commentator on issues you don't understand. Shush.


really? you think WWI started simply because franz ferdinand was shot, ...or WWII had nothing to do with Hitler's push into the middle east and western russian oilfields? or that vietnam and korea had nothing to do with the collision of economic systems (communist totalitarianism and capitalism). or Iraq has nothing to do with oil and Afghanistan has nothing to do with rare earth deposits? good vs. evil is just fine for star wars and the lord of the rings, but on planet earth, it's about competing economic interests.
"Just" war is another term for wrapping brutality in red white and blue and selling it to the masses.

After World War 2 the US was the only mostly unscathed super power...it had half the worlds wealth. It achieved this by basically become more and more fascist as the war went on. World War 2 was a war in which we were attacked (our forced colony but still) and we responded. It was correct of course, you could argue individual decisions such as the horrifying European bombing campaign or the Nukes.

Just War Theory is a joke btw and it has been shown time and time again that a war that in embarked upon is justified under the most spurious of reasons.

I think that a "just" war is something that can only exist in a historical context. The Second World War was undoubtedly an economic/resource war (with myriad other "causes" piled on top) and the parties entered into it with that in mind. It is only after the dust settles that someone can claim it was justified - as it was in the case of the Second World War with the realization of the scale of Nazi atrocities.

I don't think that means a "just" war doesn't exist, just that nations don't enter into a war for the same reasons they are later justified with.

With regards to American profiteering, it really isn't debatable; the US was publicly trading with both the Axis and the Allies until Pearl Harbor and then American businesses found more secretive ways of trading with Germany after. If one believes in nationalism above all else, then this is horrid, but if money is what someone worships, then this is the correct course of action. Either way, the justification of the war doesn't really come into it.

>> ^Skeeve:


..With regards to American profiteering, it really isn't debatable; the US was publicly trading with both the Axis and the Allies until Pearl Harbor and then American businesses found more secretive ways of trading with Germany after. If one believes in nationalism above all else, then this is horrid, but if money is what someone worships, then this is the correct course of action. Either way, the justification of the war doesn't really come into it.


This is where the Bush family made their money and therefore dictated Americas future - and future disaster. You guys who want to overlook rapacious greed and murder in the here and now as merely unfortunate should bear in mind that by relinquishing your right to morally judge and control your gangsters in deference to big ideas about markets, then through the inevitability of exponential inheritance, you also relinquish your right to control your future.

This is EXACTLY the sort of shit the authors of the constitution had seen over and over in Europe and were desperate to avoid. Oh well.