Fuck this movie. Even though it's all fictitious, it can blow me. Trying to make the military look bad by recalling soldiers. Fuck the writer and director. Fuck Hollywood. Everyone knows they own your ass for eight years. I still owe them three. If they should recall me, I'd squeeze my now-fat ass into my cammies and hop on the next plane to wherever it is they send me, because that's what I swore to do. I wouldn't pussy out like a little bitch.
"I honored my contract and the Army should do the same" If you're going to make a movie, know what the fuck you're talking about. Like I said, they own your ass for 8 years. Just because you served four, that doesn't mean they can't send your ass back.

^ phew ! Upvote for enthusiasm of choggie level !

Interesting "Stop Loss" info from wikipedia

The stop-loss policy, in the United States military, is the retention of troops to remain in service beyond their expected term of service.[1] It has been argued that soldiers contractually agree to partake in stop-loss, but this may or may not be the case, and the issue is still being debated, both in public and in federal court. Stop loss was created by Congress after the Vietnam War. Stop-loss has been justified on the legal basis of paragraph 9(c) which states: "In the event of war, my enlistment in the Armed Forces continues until six (6) months after the war ends, unless the enlistment is ended sooner by the President of the United States" but which has not been reviewed in full by a federal court system.

The use of this provision has been criticized by many as abuse of the spirit of the law, due to the fact it is often used in circmstances that Congress has not yet declared as war, such as in the current occupation in Iraq.

Stop-loss was first significantly used just before and during the first Gulf War. According to a military publication[1], "the Army last used stop loss during Operation Desert Shield/Desert Storm in 1990 when President George H. W. Bush delegated stop loss authority to the defense secretary." Since then, it has been used more extensively; since 2001 primarily after the national State of emergency declared by President George W. Bush

Stop-loss, as well as the practice of involuntary extension, have been controversial. In a campaign speech in 2004, former presidential candidate John Kerry described stop-loss policy as a "backdoor draft."[1]

The first legal challenge to this policy came in August 2004, with a lawsuit challenged by an anonymous National Guardsman in California.[2] A basis for the suit is that stop-loss does not apply to the current situation in Iraq, which is a military occupation and not a war zone. Another argument used in the case is that it broke the contract of the guardsman, as he had already fulfilled his IRR obligation.

The first legal challenge to the extension of term of service of military call-up or contract occurred during the American Civil War, when a soldier was courtmartialed by Secretary of War Edwin Stanton himself.

Secretary of Defense Robert Gates, as one of his first acts in his position, penned a memo compelling commanders to "minimize" the stop-lossing of soldiers.

The United States Department of Defense now has begun a program to replace the stop-loss, as it is "too controversial". The new program, known as Involuntary Extension, is a circumvention of stop-loss, and simply changes the ETS [end time service] date on a soldier's LES (Leave and Earnings Statement).

The Army claims that enlisted soldiers facing stop loss can now voluntarily separate from the United States Army by request, under provision 3-12, but this is deceptive because only after they complete an involuntary deployment of twelve to fifteen months and 90 days "stabilization time" can they apply.

Iraq Veterans Against the War, an activist organization of former and current service members, in solidarity with former Specialist and Iraq vet Evan Knappenberger, has announced a national "Stop the Stop-Loss" campaign at a recent press conference where they were holding a week-long vigil in a tower erected on the National Mall in Washington, D.C. Other anti-Stop-Loss vigils have occured in Bellingham, Washington, and Colorado Springs, Colorado

Aww. Poor guy. It's okay to be a deserter if you feel like you don't want to be in the military anymore... NOT!

dude, qruel... its: 'soldiers', L before D.

hollowwood...same brand of fuck America as Fox

^nice over generalization there choggs, but I'm begining to expect that from you.

Congrats on the gold. Here's an upvote. Bastard

all these anti-war hollowwood films are masturbation no one wants to see.......the reviews are dismal..what's the point??

I was out of the Army in 2001, was on Individual Ready Reserve until 2003 and I was reactivated in Feb of 2003 after being a civilian for 2 years. I had 4 months left on my 8 years, too.

The lack of imagery analyst NCO's was to blame. So I went from civilian life to war zone just like that. I hated it, it sucked and basically destroyed my first marriage, but I sucked it up and did what i had to do. I knew what I was signing up for and I just happened to be one of the few that they actually pull off IRR.

@ Hive: I doff my hat to you, sir.

I'm not in the military, not my thang, you wouldn't want me if it was, but enough respect to you if you are. Anyhow, if I WERE, I'd definitely expect some sort of concrete answer on how many tours I'd be doing. I don't know if there is a concrete answer, I don't know if promises are being made and broken or if it's up to the individual soldier.

from reading the wiki entry, stop loss seems pretty controversial and not an open and shut issue

Stop loss was pointed out when I signed up and I asked questions about it. It is most definitely in your contract when you sign up. When you enlist, you sign for 8 years of service no matter what. So if you leave active duty anytime before 8 years are up, they contractually reserve the right to call you back if there is a shortage for your MOS. The way I've seen stop loss most commonly used is with soldiers that are approaching the end of their service during the month of our units deployment or in the months shortly after. If they need numbers and you're about to disappear, they will extend you until the end of the next tour. This happened to a few of my friends on the last deployment. They were a little bitter about it initially, but all of them understood that they had signed for it. They even planned ahead knowing what would happen when they saw that they were scheduled to leave the Army practically the day after we were supposed to hit the ground. Also, the extensions are by no means indefinite as the movie claims. Everyone I knew that was extended either came home and outprocessed half-way through the deployment, or immediately after we got back.

The U.S. Military: cheapest mercenary force the multinational oil companies could buy.

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