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More people have been killed by authoritarian governments than by terrorists.

Sure "assassination" is illegal under US and international law. But "extra judicial targeted killing" is different entirely. Just like what Israel did in Dubai; totally kosher. I admit sometimes it can be hard to tell the difference between assassination and extra judicial targeted killing. But I find it's a good rule of thumb to ask if they're Muslim. As everyone knows, Muslims can't be assassinated.

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Don't assassinate me, bro'!

>> ^entr0py:
Sure "assassination" is illegal under US and international law. But "extra judicial targeted killing" is different entirely. Just like what Israel did in Dubai; totally kosher. I admit sometimes it can be hard to tell the difference between assassination and extra judicial targeted killing. But I find it's a good rule of thumb to ask if they're Muslim. As everyone knows, Muslims can't be assassinated.


I feel where you are coming from. When considering assassination, though, I usually consider that a combatant covertly killing a non-combatant. If a soldier kills a soldier, that isn't what I would consider an assassination. Likewise, if some group of deep-covert military people went in and killed a bunch of war targets in the thick of the night, I wouldn't consider that assassination either.

I will digress as I know nothing of what Israel did in Dubai, just offering further conversation

OMG ron paul is such a liberal pinko hollywood ACLU hugger.


BTW, in news today, open source software people get added to a piracy watch list. I think they might be terrorists too. Kill them all and install windows in their graves.

You'd swear he was talking about the Bush administration. What's up, Obama?

There is only one party, and guess what, you weren't invited (long live the new aristocracy..except for Ron Paul and a few others)

How was that "Ron Paul to Obama"? Was Barack Obama in the same room listening to this speech? Sounded to me like he was talking to the Congress and American people.

>> ^ajkido:
How was that "Ron Paul to Obama"? Was Barack Obama in the same room listening to this speech? Sounded to me like he was talking to the Congress and American people.


Because congress makes very few decisions now a days. The are mostly relegated to arguing about policy that the blindly pass through after the fact, not before. We are mostly an empire atm, with the congress relegated to the same status as it was during the time of the Roman emperors.

Wait. What American citizen has Obama assassinated?

And if I remember correctly, not only has Obama signed documents over a year ago to close GITMO, but he's also pushing for criminal trials of terrorists. But, it's the congress that is holding this shit up, not Obama.

So, maybe Dr.Paul here needs to have a R3VOLUTION to push these things forward. Not just give a fucking speech on an empty house floor.

>> ^volumptuous:
Wait. What American citizen has Obama assassinated?
And if I remember correctly, not only has Obama signed documents over a year ago to close GITMO, but he's also pushing for criminal trials of terrorists. But, it's the congress that is holding this shit up, not Obama.
So, maybe Dr.Paul here needs to have a R3VOLUTION to push these things forward. Not just give a fucking speech on an empty house floor.


He has made more dark and insidious the evils of the past administrations. Indefinite detention without trial is his, he owns it. Closing one prison to open another 5k miles away in Afghanistan is no great achievement for the ideals you would say he pretends to espouse.

He also has to own up to the fact that the current CIA director is saying this out in the open and hasn't gotten a rebuke from the administration. The director position is an appointed one, so any problems that stem from the CIA are tie back to the executive branch...the president is ultimately responsible for their blunders.

Thanks for putting this so well!

geesussfreek, i downvoted this video for a number of reasons, not the least of which is the alarmist rhetoric of monsieur paul, who does indeed exacerbate the already violent feelings about obama by whackos. and lets remember that monsieur paul (albeit involuntarily) spawned what is today known as the tea party.

i also felt compelled to downvote this video because of your caption about the need to get more guns and ammo. i think this is an unreasonable reaction, especially since, as volumptuous reminds us, OBAMA is actually trying to bring these things more out into the open.

>> ^volumptuous:
Wait. What American citizen has Obama assassinated?
And if I remember correctly, not only has Obama signed documents over a year ago to close GITMO, but he's also pushing for criminal trials of terrorists. But, it's the congress that is holding this shit up, not Obama.
So, maybe Dr.Paul here needs to have a R3VOLUTION to push these things forward. Not just give a fucking speech on an empty house floor.

Is it me, or is it impossible to assassinate a citizen, unless that citizen also happens to be a high ranking public official of some sort?

>> ^bmacs27:
Is it me, or is it impossible to assassinate a citizen, unless that citizen also happens to be a high ranking public official of some sort?


Assassination to me has always been essentially murder of a state or public official. But it has been slagged out to mean a "hit". Basically an murdered that has some organization behind it be it the mob, or the government. So where you are right to be puzzled by its use; the use of assassination to mean a "hit" is fairly common place.

and to address griefer_queafer. As I have mentioned in a early part of this thread, more people have been executed by totalitarian governments than by terrorists. It is right to be afraid of many things, bears, lions, tigers, and even terrorists. But, the plain and simple truth is the deaths from those things pail in comparison with dictator states. The fear of the latter should be mountains greater than any of the former. There is a different between raising the alarm and being an alarmist. Were Peter Schiff, and Ron Paul alarmists when they warned of the impending house recession crash? It is one thing to be unjustifiably angry with Obama as you point out. But to do as Dr. Paul is, whom is legitimately concerned about the direction of this country, and call him out takes a bit of gumption. Would you of said the same to all the Bush haters?

Also, if you didn't get my hyperbole in my caption I am sorry. Most things are lost in translation from my head to words. However, Obama isn't about transparency...at all. All the closed door meetings that lead to the bail out of the banks and the rush job to pass legislation through before his touted "7 day for Americans to review legislation" policy flew right out the window. Make no mistake, Obama is better at dressing up the turd that is our current government. But a large pile of poo it still is.

And for something completely different. By 2022, by my limited projections; at current spending levels (which will actually go up because of medicare) the interest on the federal debt will be equal to the entire federal budget of this year. Bad stuff happens then.

So the Jesus Freak still hasn't answered WTF Ron Paul is talking about.

What American citizen has Obama assassinated?

>> ^volumptuous:
So the Jesus Freak still hasn't answered WTF Ron Paul is talking about.
What American citizen has Obama assassinated?


Anyone they think joined al-Qaeda. No trial, no over-site, no habeas corpus, no due process...dead. So they can really just kill anyone and say that they were al-Qaeda and hide the evidence for "national security" reasons. So the real answer is who knows, and the real fear is anyone they want to.

>> ^volumptuous:

So the Jesus Freak still hasn't answered WTF Ron Paul is talking about.
What American citizen has Obama assassinated?


@3:13 Ron Paul addresses the attempted assassination of Anwar al-Awlaki.

This video needs a promote.