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Ron Paul is an idiot. Worse, he's an idiot who seems to have tricked millions of people into believing he's actually incredibly clever.

>> ^Drachen_Jager:

Ron Paul is an idiot. Worse, he's an idiot who seems to have tricked millions of people into believing he's actually incredibly clever.


Good one. I was hoping there'd be some sort of fact in there, or cited material to support your argument, but as usual just empty words.

Yeah, everyone knows his position is that less regulation is better for everyone, somehow that would avert things like the BP oil spill. His positions on these things are demonstrably false, but his supporters are too stupid to recognise them for what they are and I generally try to avoid arguing with stupid people. There's simply no point.

Over and out.

>> ^Drachen_Jager:

Yeah, everyone knows his position is that less regulation is better for everyone, somehow that would avert things like the BP oil spill. His positions on these things are demonstrably false, but his supporters are too stupid to recognise them for what they are and I generally try to avoid arguing with stupid people. There's simply no point.
Over and out.


Riiiight. Good stance. I take it you are against all of his positions us dumb people believe in? Things like being anti-war, anti-torture, anti-imprisonment without trial (a'la Brad Manning), and so on.

You're right. There's simply no point.

>> ^Drachen_Jager:

Yeah, everyone knows his position is that less regulation is better for everyone, somehow that would avert things like the BP oil spill. His positions on these things are demonstrably false, but his supporters are too stupid to recognise them for what they are and I generally try to avoid arguing with stupid people. There's simply no point.
Over and out.


Because regulations DID prevent the oil spill...after all. Durp!

Edit: O right, and helped keep gays from getting married for x number of years. And started the drug war, durp durp.

^Us per usual, JesusFreak is clueless. Had safety valve regulations been in place - as is the case in many other countries - the BP oil disaster would have been averted.

Enlighten yourself here: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704423504575212031417936798.html

"U.S. regulators don't mandate use of the remote-control device on offshore rigs, and the Deepwater Horizon, hired by oil giant BP PLC, didn't have one. With the remote control, a crew can attempt to trigger an underwater valve that shuts down the well even if the oil rig itself is damaged or evacuated."

Pro tip: If you wish to accuse others of stupidity, you should be careful to not pair the charge with obviously stupid commentary of your own.

>> ^dystopianfuturetoday:

^Us per usual


I think you should've stopped there.

>> ^dystopianfuturetoday:

^Us per usual, JesusFreak is clueless. Had safety valve regulations been in place - as is the case in many other countries - the BP oil disaster would have been averted.
Enlighten yourself here: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704423504575212031
417936798.html
"U.S. regulators don't mandate use of the remote-control device on offshore rigs, and the Deepwater Horizon, hired by oil giant BP PLC, didn't have one. With the remote control, a crew can attempt to trigger an underwater valve that shuts down the well even if the oil rig itself is damaged or evacuated."
Pro tip: If you accuse others of stupidity, you should be careful to not pair the charge with obviously stupid commentary of your own.


You mean the regulatory body in charge of regulating it wasn't regulating it well enough? How is that any different? If only government could solve problems with hindsight, we would be set! Pro tip, if you make a point, actually make one.


PS. Are those laws even in place yet? Also, "PAGE UNAVAILABLE". I will have to take your word on the government being inept.

^So you are now in favor of regulation? Do you suffer from some kind of multiple personality disorder? Maybe next time you could just argue with yourself and save me the trouble.

He doesn't believe in the separation of church and state. In this sense he is a complete bible belt redneck to me. THe end.

Downvote for THE VIEW even more so than anything else.

lol

>> ^Issykitty:

He doesn't believe in the separation of church and state. In this sense he is a complete bible belt redneck to me. THe end.


Hmmmm? Let me see... a president who continues to torture, bomb foreign countries, expand the wars, create new military aggressions, refuses to repeal the Patriot Act, condemns Brad Manning of wikileaks, continues the Bush Doctrine, and is a pro-corporatist? Or one who doesn't believe the "rigid separation" between state and church has a basis in the Constitution?

He's right as far as the Constitution is concerned. Still, let's not forget that RP also said, "When fascism comes it will be wrapped in a flag and carrying a cross." Does that sound like a "bible belt redneck"?

And for the record, I'm a bible belt redneck, thankyouverymuch. At least as my hometown is counted.

Could someone explain to me what the president has to do with leading a country?

Guinan seems somewhat stand-offish with Dr. Paul.

So what you're saying is that he's a standard person. Some things you agree with...some things you don't.

Wow...its a good thing we have this system where there are checks and balances in place so that the president has limited power.

There are things he's absolutely dead on about, but there are things he's an absolute nutcase about. The fact that he sired Rand Paul scares me a bit. but right now I'm totally for his anti-war stance so if he can get us out of three wars..I'll gladly put up with his nonsense about the gold standard and de-regulation.

Taxation is bad.
Freedom is good.
Government is bad.
The constitution is good.

YAY American libertarians!

Americas faith in social mobility makes them believe that everyone who is poor deserves to be poor and everyone who is rich deserves to be rich.

Like John Steinbeck said "Poor Americans just consider themselves embarrassed millionaires". Take away regulations and the coercive power necessary to enforce them and see how quickly you all become embarrassed millionaires, dead or otherwise.

If you want to live in a libertarian country try visiting Somalia one day.

If "Old America" took care of everyone why did anything change?

He seems to think regulation comes about as a form of controlling the free market and not to correct the failings of the free market. Adam Smith would be rolling in his grave.

>> ^Kofi:

If "Old America" took care of everyone why did anything change?


It was Black Thursday of 1929 which prompted the reactionary response called the New Deal. Since then, we've slowly accepted the idea of government caring for us from cradle to grave.

That's one of the major reasons it changed.

Being against starting wars is great and all, but if anti-war for Ron Paul means to cut and run I'm against it. The US should stay in Iraq and pour tax money into it until it is completely rebuilt. I don't care if it takes 100 years or all the money, but if there's one lesson America needs to learn it's how to live with the consequences of their actions. Apparently Vietnam was not a big enough lesson. Let's make this one stick.

>> ^blankfist:

>> ^Drachen_Jager:
Yeah, everyone knows his position is that less regulation is better for everyone, somehow that would avert things like the BP oil spill. His positions on these things are demonstrably false, but his supporters are too stupid to recognise them for what they are and I generally try to avoid arguing with stupid people. There's simply no point.
Over and out.

Riiiight. Good stance. I take it you are against all of his positions us dumb people believe in? Things like being anti-war, anti-torture, anti-imprisonment without trial (a'la Brad Manning), and so on.
You're right. There's simply no point.


Didn't you know he's the quintessential expert on everything from Government to 9/11? And a closet Physicist too! And if you disagree with his opinion then you're just stupid and not worth talking to.

>> ^blankfist:

>> ^Kofi:
If "Old America" took care of everyone why did anything change?

It was Black Thursday of 1929 which prompted the reactionary response called the New Deal. Since then, we've slowly accepted the idea of government caring for us from cradle to grave.
That's one of the major reasons it changed.


I'd say it's more likely that the people who thought the Rockefellers and their ilk were heroes figured out how to do a better job of exploiting the masses. What did that one study say? The ratio of the highest pay to the lowest pay used to be 30 to 1...now it's 300 to 1.

The wealthy get even more wealthier, yet somehow it's still the poor's fault. The wealthy sit in their ivory towers, languishing in luxury off the work of the poor..yet the poor are the lazy ones.

>> ^VoodooV:

>> ^blankfist:
>> ^Kofi:
If "Old America" took care of everyone why did anything change?

It was Black Thursday of 1929 which prompted the reactionary response called the New Deal. Since then, we've slowly accepted the idea of government caring for us from cradle to grave.
That's one of the major reasons it changed.

I'd say it's more likely that the people who thought the Rockefellers and their ilk were heroes figured out how to do a better job of exploiting the masses. What did that one study say? The ratio of the highest pay to the lowest pay used to be 30 to 1...now it's 300 to 1.
The wealthy get even more wealthier, yet somehow it's still the poor's fault. The wealthy sit in their ivory towers, languishing in luxury off the work of the poor..yet the poor are the lazy ones.


Yes, and they've also sold the narrative that inflation is a'okay.