Ron Paul on Israel's Invasion of Gaza

Obama may not take a stand, but Ron Paul certainly will.
BicycleRepairMansays...

"Pre-emptive war"

What nonsense, Hamas was firing rockets on a daily basis into Israel prior to this attack, so no , this is hardly a pre-emptive strike based on "what might or might not happen."

Now, before the pro-palestinian crowd explodes on my post, Yes, I am aware of the dreadful conditions etc the palestian people live in, I am aware that Israel is to blame for much of that, and that they might have provoked extremists to fire rockets in the first place, All I'm saying is that when someone fires rockets at your civilian population on a routine basis, the reactions, however excessive or wrong they may be, cant be called "pre-emptive".

The Iraq war was "pre-emptive" because Iraq had never fired a missile on US targets, and posed no threat to US citizens. Hamas fighters do fire missiles and are a threat to Israeli civilians.

Asmosays...

Yeah, the rocket attacks were bad.

So were the multiple tank sorties by the Israelis over the last 20 years. So was the original creation of the state of Israel where Jewish imigrants pushed out the Syrians who owned the area. Then we can go back to the Saracen empire, the Romans empire, Moses fucking over the heathens etc etc etc.

Imo the heathens got a raw deal and the whole area should go back to them...

Let's get over who through the first fucking stone. Pre-emptively invading a country is wrong, starving people is wrong, rocket attacks are wrong.

Backing either side is wrong, condemning both and encouraging them to work their shit out is pretty much the only course of action if you're going to get involved either way. Enabling either side (with monetary/military aid) merely increases the conflict and precipitates another humanitarian disaster (like we need more of those atm).

Withdraw all support. When both sides have run out of food and guns and are willing to play nice, organise peace talks.

Surely America has the stomach for that, it would cost a hell of a lot less than the Iraqi expedition for oil (in money and lives). Might even ease the suffering of thousands of people who live in constant fear...

ElessarJDsays...

>> ^NetRunner:

Less fear, and more comedy.

NetRunner, it's one thing to add a sift to a certain channel because of an oversight by the original poster and it technically deserves to be put in that channel. It's another thing to put something in a channel based on your biased, subjective opinion. Not cool.

I'm glad whoever removed it from comedy, did so.

BicycleRepairMansays...

Let's get over who [threw] the first fucking stone

I agree, That was kinda my point. After 3000 years of nearly continuous battle the words "pre-emptive strike" has no place in this war. Which is why I objected to Ron Paul's usage of the phrase. He could just as well have compared it to vietnam or the falklands or operation market garden as the Iraq war, as these wars have completely different contexts, battles, politics and everything. He could have compared it to an episode of Teletubbies and it would have made as much sense: None at all.

volumptuoussays...

"Obama may not take a stand, but Ron Paul certainly will."

Or, take a seat, rather. Inside of what looks like a trailer-home, complete with horrible fake wood paneling and a dot-matrix printer.

GOLD STANDARD CURES CANCER!!

HollywoodBobsays...

Every time I see this guy he's doing the same set. Doesn't he have any new material? Maybe he should try some props, or maybe a guitar.

During his campaign he was a refreshing change from your typical politicians, but his down fall was his extremely limited scope. Maybe if he added some more topics and new ideas he might have been able to do better in the primaries.

soulmonarchsays...

Upvote *Paulitics.

I'm glad Dr. Paul hasn't simply faded back into the woodwork after the election. He may not be President, but he is still working to make as much of a difference as possible. And, truthfully, he will probably be able to do more good in the long run this way... at least now he is relatively free to do and say as he pleases.

14002says...

If Hamas would stop firing missiles into Israel, Israel would have no need to invade Gaza. Remember people, it's Hamas who blends in with the civilians, forcing Israel to attack civilian territory. Israel isn't setting out to kill innocent people; it's just an unfortunate result in the battle against Hamas.

bleedingsnowmansays...

>> ^Bic54:
If Hamas would stop firing missiles into Israel, Israel would have no need to invade Gaza. Remember people, it's Hamas who blends in with the civilians, forcing Israel to attack civilian territory. Israel isn't setting out to kill innocent people; it's just an unfortunate result in the battle against Hamas.



An egregious oversimplification worthy of any illiterate wanker without a mind of their own. Quit listening to Daddy and pick up a newspaper for once.

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