>> ^choggie:
"Obama has won sufficient delegates to guarantee him the nomination and is therefore considered the presumptive nominee, and to be guaranteed a place among the stars."
God Bless Bee Pollen crisps, smothered in caramel!!!!


You know things are going well when even Choggie gives Obama his blessings.

The original quote from Wikip:

Obama has won sufficient delegates to guarantee him the nomination and is therefore considered the presumptive nominee. [Same status as McCain]

His speech blew McCain's out of the water.

Can somebody in America please explain to the entire rest of the world, who after all feel the effects of American foreign policies every day, why The People of The United States do not want Ron Paul as their next president? Or Mike Gravel?

What is everyone around the world missing here? What do you guys know that we don't? Cos from Europe it looks like you're all about to make fools out of yourselves once again.

You had Ron Paul and you all fucking blew it.

It's called politics. In order to get things accomplished, a politician works with other politicians to get the things they want. If your ideology strays too far from the status quo, it will be impossible to get enough support from other politicians to accomplish anything meaningful.

Most Americans are sheep. I learned this painful fact in 2004. I mean I always knew there were a lot of sheep out there, but I didn't know it constituted a majority until Bush was re-elected.

So, because most Americans lack the ability to make thoughtful, informed, rational decisions for themselves, they rely on (and generally believe) what their leaders tell them. If the mainstream politicians dismiss Ron Paul and Mike Gravel as kooks, then they have zero chance at becoming President.

IMHO, what we have in this election is a large segment of the population coming to grips with the fact that the war in Iraq really isn't giving us any tangible benefits. If gas prices stayed low and the economy was still growing nicely, the Neocons would probably stay in control, and people would keep beleving that sacrificing our soldiers was necessary. But you hit enough people in the pocketbook and they start to question your policies. All of them. That's a bad thing for Neocons. They don't look good when you start looking at them too closely.

So you've got a population that is looking for some change, but not *too* much change. Too much change is scary. So Ron Paul is out. But Obama is different. He's a great speaker, he's not tied to many special interests, and he makes people feel all warm and fuzzy.

So yeah, we're mostly sheep, but even a herd of sheep will turn on the shepherd, from time to time, if they're not being treated well.

>> ^Irishman:
Can somebody in America please explain to the entire rest of the world, who after all feel the effects of American foreign policies every day, why The People of The United States do not want Ron Paul as their next president? Or Mike Gravel?
What is everyone around the world missing here? What do you guys know that we don't? Cos from Europe it looks like you're all about to make fools out of yourselves once again.


I missed the part of history where Europe turned into a libertarian enclave. When did that happen?

Is there some poll that shows overwhelming support for Ron Paul that I missed? The only one I found limited choices to just McCain vs. Obama (no Clinton, even).

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