Sorry, dude. Downvote for snuff.

OK, this video was MADE to make the cops look bad.
Clearly, the driver was trying to speed off with the LEO on the hood. It doesn't look like it because the video was slowed down (watch the clock) and dubbed with a real time audio track.

eric, I strongly urge you to reconsider putting this in the "Cops gone bad" list. He was on the hood, and the suspect was trying to kill the cop, so he was in his rights and duties to shoot him.
I have to vote down on anything made to make a good cop look bad. There are good ones out there. People just don't want to believe it.
Surely Officer.com wouldn't host it if the cops were in the wrong.

No vote from me yet, don't know really what to vote on. I don't believe this belongs on the "Officer Gone Bad" video, for sure. The video overlap is really shoddy, and seconds of footage can make things look completely illegal or very justifiable.

If its snuff then it should be discarded. I dont think it is however,and if you believe it is please blog it. I wasnt sure if it should go into my playlist. I put it there,in the end, for the following reason. The cop lied about the subject trying to ram him. Im assuming that would be attempted murder of a police officer. This alone is why I think of him as a bad cop. It makes other officers think deadly force is likely necessary, and there first attempt to stop him is by ramming his car and shooting at him. Before the subject was rammed a second and third time he had been shoot at. I cant imagine that cops are allowed to shoot people for the reason of running when a cop tries to pull you over.

Am with Rembar, the video looks inconclusive, there are many shots that seem to be missing entirely.

However I thought it was standard procedure to box the suspects car before taking the steps to fire at the driver.

Blue Ash police say they shot and killed a man early today after he tried to run over officers following a high-speed chase in the suburban city just northeast of Cincinnati.

Blue Ash police Captain James Schaffer said officers had no choice, because the car was being used as a weapon.

The chase began shortly after midnight when police tried to stop a car being driven erratically near a high school. Police say the car had been reported stolen.

Police say the car collided with a police cruiser, then accelerated when two officers approached on foot. The vehicle then hit another cruiser.

Police said an officer tried to pull over a car on Cornell Road near Sycamore High School for driving without lights just before 12:30 a.m.

The officer told dispatchers that he thought the Monte Carlo might be one stolen from Clermont County last week.

Officers said the driver of the car, Charles Wayne Bennett, tried to run over the officer, then raced away, turning onto Reed Hartman Highway.

Audio: Radio Transmissions From Blue Ash Chase, Shooting

As officers pursued the car at speeds up to 100 mph, they said Bennett rammed his car into a police cruiser, then hit a tree.

But when officers approached on foot near Cooper Road, police said, Bennett drove the car at them again and continued down Reed Hartman as police fired on the car.

"The vehicle was being used as a weapon," said police Capt. James Schaffer.

After another collision, the car stopped again, and an officer attempted to arrest Bennett. When Bennett tried to hit the officer with the car, the officer ended up on the car's hood and fired twice, hitting Bennett at least once.

Down vote from the hip, no watchy....."what ya gonna do?what ya gonna do?what ya gonna do when the TV is poo?"

human drama, for the sake of entertainment....fuck it-counter-productive, hind-brain indulgence.....

It is procedure to box the car in, and after watching the video's ending multiple times, it seems that the cop jumped onto the hood of the car, pistol drawn as is procedure, and that's when the suspect started driving. It was then that the officer took him out.

I agree this doesn't deserve a place in "Police gone bad." We missed the precious seconds prior to the firing officer ending up on the hood, but it seems like he was standing beside or in front of the vehicle when the driver accelerated which is how he probably ended up jumping on the hood. (Unlikely that the suspect vehicle was stopped and the officer just decided to climb aboard rather than approach the driver-side window.)

In any case, once the officer the was up there, the driver had no choice but to stop. The officer was not in the wrong, nor was he lying about the driver trying to ram him; it's very understandable that in the heat of the moment the suspect's initial U-turn could seem like an attempted collision that just couldn't turn tightly enough. After all, if he was just going to run, he could have just gone straight ahead.

I don't agree this is merely LCD indulgence. I think open discussions about important, controversial current events are very worth having, especially when they involve state versus citizen.

I'm half with choggie on this.
And the irony of Blue Ash is too much to pass up: Good, Bad? I'm the guy with the gun.

That said, we do not see how the officer came to be on the hood. While he is on the hood and firing, he is not at all trying to gain/regain his balance, which would be an unavoidable neural instinct had he just landed on it or had the car suddenly accelerated. He is kneeling and in a controlled firing position. I don't know. The cop's proclamation that he intends to "take him out if he gets a chance" is almost certainly referring to just ramming the offending car, not execution. It's not even clear which officer is on the hood (car 1 or 2 - or would you prefer the goat behind curtain #3).

But you cannot antagonize lots of people with guns without expecting to get shot.

The news text is bizarro - how could a car slam into a tree, and then turn around and move quick enough to be considered a weapon used with deadly force?

The whole thing is fubared.

While I chose to downvote this one, I hope it at least gets saved or requeued because it is generating such a good thread.

Police said an officer tried to pull over a car on Cornell Road near Sycamore High School for driving without lights just before 12:30 a.m.

The officer told dispatchers that he thought the Monte Carlo might be one
stolen from Clermont County last week.
--Never heard him say that

Officers said the driver of the car, Charles Wayne Bennett, tried to run over the officer, then raced away, turning onto Reed Hartman Highway.
--Didnt see that. I assume this is where the officer says the subject tried to ram him, which is clearly BS from the video.


As officers pursued the car at speeds up to 100 mph, they said Bennett rammed his car into a police cruiser, then hit a tree.
--Didnt see that. Cops looked like they were doing all the ramming.--

But when officers approached on foot near Cooper Road, police said, Bennett drove the car at them again and continued down Reed Hartman as police fired on the car.
--I saw an officer ram the suspects car. Then they cut to an officer who is shooting at the suspect.--

"The vehicle was being used as a weapon," said police Capt. James Schaffer.
-- The only vehicles I saw used as a weapons were the police cars.--

After another collision, the car stopped again, and an officer attempted to arrest Bennett. When Bennett tried to hit the officer with the car, the officer ended up on the car's hood and fired twice, hitting Bennett at least once.
--I saw the officer ram the suspect then from another camera the officer steps or jumps onto the hood at which time the suspects car starts to move forward. He then fired not twice but six times as I see it. I dont think what he did could be considered an attempt to arrest.--

The point Im making is the police or police dept. lied to bolster there justification of the shooting. I would call cops that lie, bad cops.

By the way I dont dislike police officers. I do have higher expectations for them, when it comes to, the way they perform there job. Far to often they are excused for what they do because they are one of the good guys.

Eric,
As officers pursued the car at speeds up to 100 mph, they said Bennett rammed his car into a police cruiser, then hit a tree.
--Didnt see that. Cops looked like they were doing all the ramming.--
Of course you didn't; it was cut from this clip.

But when officers approached on foot near Cooper Road, police said, Bennett drove the car at them again and continued down Reed Hartman as police fired on the car.
--I saw an officer ram the suspects car. Then they cut to an officer who is shooting at the suspect.--
Again, this was cut from the video. Also, of course they cut to an officer firing upon the driver - the video was made to make them look bad.

"The vehicle was being used as a weapon," said police Capt. James Schaffer.
-- The only vehicles I saw used as a weapons were the police cars.--
The incident that they are referring to was cut. The one you are referring to is the one at the end. The LEOs were using their cars as tools - they didn't intend to kill the suspect by ramming him, they intended to box him in and prevent escape. The suspect tried to use his car to cause injury or death to the officer.
Yes, the officer did fire six times. Though I think that the "fired twice" thing may have been a misunderstanding -any one who's seen the video can't argue that. I checked the possibility that someone may have added false gunshots in the making up this clip - I tried counting muzzle flashes but I can't make any conclusive arguments. It does appear that there were indeed six.

Gunrock where are you getting your information about the tape being made or edited. I havent read that anywhere. That would change things quite a bit. If thats true, my apologies for getting the story wrong. Please send me any info you have on this.

I'm not saying that I have any real sources, what I am saying is that the full story as told by the Police Captain does not match with the video - it has been chopped up and changes scenes too much. You very well may be correct, but so far as I can tell, all the vital parts have been cut to tell a full story.

Dont you think that maybe the video which you can see with your own eyes is easier to believe than some guy you dont know or have any idea who he is. The vital parts have been cut? which parts? The ones that would be there to match the polices story. Im amazed that your willing to say, as if it was fact, that this video has been tampered with to make the police look bad. Your basing this on "what you think" and what you think is based solely on this video.

"what I am saying is that the full story as told by the Police Captain does not match with the video"

Dont you think it possible that the police captain made up his story and thats why they dont match.

Sure, that's a possibility. Overall, even if you disregard all other things that I said, I'm saying that the cops were not in the wrong.

Im afraid this ones gonna have to be *discard but I will be playing each and every night in the playlist cops gone bad.

Discarding this post - discard requested by original submitter eric3579.

one thing... instead of saying "take him out" can we say "kill him by firing metal through his body without mercy".

it might have been the right thing to do , but let's not hide behind vocabulary here.

It looks to me like it was edited to try to make the police look bad.