Nice post..beat me to it.

"The picture we have today, is that the Earth's climate is changing, and that humans are largely responsible.."

Jurys' out on that is it??? Bullshit.
(If you have a passionate reaction to the last statement, that's good indication, that you don't have a clue as the the validity of such a loaded, emotionalized quote.)

However, the quality of life for most humans, is pretty whacked...perpetrated in human being's most inimitable fashion-

Again, to infer, that there is not one argument as valid as others on a subject as uncodified as climate study is remedial, impetuous, unscientific, poo

As time rolls foward, the more money these corporations pump into pseudo-science bullshit to stem the flow of renewable, sustainable energy forms from taking foot, the more emboldened it makes those who are in the business of ridding humanity from its oil/coal dependancy.

Non-energy corporations are waking up to the fact that once initial investment capital has been paid off from an economical energy source, the fuel for the energy thereafter is 100% free, and virtually unlimited, with extremly low maintenance and upkeep costs. Long term, switching over is far cheaper than keeping the status quo.

So to all those asswipes who think we have no control over global warming, who have no idea about the physics thats seated behind the theory of global warming (which by the way, in scientific nomenclature, a 'theory' is the highest level of prestige awarded to human understanding, theories explain facts under observable and crucifiable situations), who have had no formal education in even physics 101 where thermal dynamics is taught, who have never read a book in their lives, and have a slippery, astro-glide encased grasp on any concept of economics, I give you, a big shut the fuck up, sit down, and accept that renewables are the way of the future, wether you fucking like it or not.

So sick and tired of these stall tactics that are continually pushed in the face of humanity for no other reason than to promote corporate greed, all at the expense of the humanity they sell their shit to.

/rant

To appeal to the corporate, democratic, industrialised capitalists out there still on the fence about global warming and our need to act or not. Put the whole debate out of your head, and think from your hip-pocket.

Imagine a world where the energy required to run everything in your house, is literally, free.
It is uninterrupted, enviornmentally friendly, unlimited, free energy.

From a business point of view, even if this energy, after investment capital was paid off (read: wind, concentrated solar thermal, geo-thermal or wave power), was sold for 3c/kwHr, you would still be making a huge proffit. And, worst case scenario on maintaining status quo, you would be save near total annihilation of the human race.

There is no sane argument against going to electrical cars, powered up by a grid that sources it energy from 100% renewable and sustainable energy, anyone who claims otherwise is a fruitcake.

sane argument against going to electric cars: I like the smell of gasoline and the sound of a combustion engine.

Fruitcake!!!

Whos to say we cant get a gasolene smelling air-freshner at the car wash?
The sound ? Welll....stiff luck, brushless DC motors arnt renowned for their gravitass bass producing rythmic sound, and carbon based fuels are limited, even the cleanest of the lot.

I may be the only person here that believes free energy exists and has for some time, but is kept from the masses, until perhaps some maverick gets the information public, or until they have tapped what they will, and the emperor's new cloths are called for what they are- Why then use a pulpit of half-truths?? Global Warming advocates should come clean and tell the world how they thought they could topple the current paradigm-pimps, by making some shit up we can all be passionate about-a cessation of oil and gas use-what really needs to cease, is a bought sold and owed to economic system....we will see as the world nations and diversity creep towards one entity, just how fucking wild it really is-that they have kept from the world the next paradigm, in order to build and concentrate wealth and empire....

The planet's ebb and flow of climate phenom, has been weathered with and without humans for eons, along with her core belching gas and acid. Humans have more to worry about with the vortice of geopolitics than they do the earth cooling down....because solar cycles are the cause and effect primarily, for atmospheric changes...w/ the dance of oceans and core....

Be-damned the lies and the liars

You wanna hit the fuckers where they will listen? Stop paying your income taxes on a mass scale-
don't shop because you are bored and hawked-to
get yer cathode-ray nipple a hammer for New Years

Yes, the climate goes in cycles, there have been ice ages before. But we also know climate can kill civilizations...and build civilizations (drought brought remote Africans to the Nile for example.)

If you watch the doc, you can clearly see there is an industry...the richest industry in the world that is using its extreme wealth to not make our planet a better place to live, and democracies should use their power of the people to fight these types of businesses. Maybe I would forgive Exxon for their years of damaging the earth if they started committing cleaner and maybe renewable energies, sure they wont make billions and billions every year, but what the hell are they doing with the billions and billions they already make? Buying yachts? bribing the Media? funding hack scientists.

Global Warming has been chewed up and spit out by the MSM, but its time for people to start thinking for themselves, the actions of these liars who are profiting from the literal destruction of the planet needs to be dealt with. The science is in. Spewing pollution into air is warming up the planet and already making it very unlivable (ever spent a summer in Toronto? Try Bejing!) That warmth is causing climates all over the earth to act wacky...It wont kill our planet, but it could certainly make the world a much less pleasant place for humans and animals to live (although in some places its not really pleasant right now.)

I don't mean to be an alarmist, but I grew up learning about the environment, we learnt about Global Warming in grade school back in the 80s. At that time we were under the impression that "adults" were taking care of it by recycling and composting. Then Canada starts profiting from the oil sands and our Global warming priorities are suddenly lined up with America...Where "The Jury is still out." - Understand our PM is loyal to Bush, but our PM cuts taxes and thats why people like him, don't worry about the 2500 troops euchred in Ghanistan. Once the arctic melts you can trade from Canada to Europe in hours, you almost have to wonder if these guys simply WANT to destroy the planet...apparently it pays. - http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=1841989

bah!
So how's the weather in your neck of the woods choggie

Samish, as always.

I avoid linear discussions of facts for facts sake, they tend to leave out the other dimensions at work in humans namely, the spiritual......

What do you get when you successfully dupe the so called enlightened of the world, into pretending to care, to want the death of the beast, and at the same time continue to play the game that feeds each head of the hydra?

You get a world that you must navigate in a type of survival mode, for the sake of your own well-being, the well-being of your immediate personal circle, with a view to riding out the storm with a modicum of comfort, until the shit hits the singularity fan.

We are too far down the path....the path of having been led by, fed by, and bled by, the current economic and geopolitical paradigm....it must die before the planet can heal-but that too, is a double-edged sword....remember when Rome bit the big one??? We went from indoor plumbing to shitting outside in the same water we use to drink. A looooooot of sentients are going to have to die before the shit stops.....

And if all the cars and factories shut down TODAY....the ice caps would still do what they do, and the species that are to leave, will leave, etc....all is as it should be-

How bout start with a symbolic blow to the machine. Kill yer television, and stop looking at Walmarts, much less shopping at them. Use their death as a pulpit to launch economic attacks at other death-dealing corporations, work your way up from Walton's crew, to Archer Daniels Midland, and take a fucking farm back for Christmas.....next, embrace your mortality, and go for the jugular, the medical industrial complex, the insurance industrial complex, etc.......driving a hybrid car is fine and all, but you have to at the same time, suffer the masters of oil, no more.....why I say, we will never see free energy, until those that keep it locked away, are annihilated.

So Greenpeace??? Next time you plan an ineffectual protest, destroy a supertanker instead of bouncing off it in a raft......and do it in dry dock, ya goddamn hippies, so you won't have to bath seagulls all summer...