Life in Palestine : Military Checkpoints

relnsays...

New York Times May 21, 2003
"A would-be suicide bomber hid three times in an ambulance in a bid to get past Israeli troops...He then joined forces with a 40yr old woman, mother of three, who strapped a bomb to her chest and accompanied him on a taxi ride."

One can only imagine how they threatened this woman to get her to strap a bomb to her chest.

Here's more:
Arabs using an UN Ambulance for Terrorism
14 year old Suicide Bomber
Red-cross ambulance carrys a suicide bomber belt

joedirtsays...

ZOMG! i wonder how they got a poor frail woman to strap explosives to her chest? Maybe they stuck a gun to her head. Oh wait, that wouldn't work. Maybe they told her about virgins in heaven.. Probably not.. huh. Gee guess we'll never figure it out.

Oh wait, maybe people treated SO horribly and her life was such hell and she got shot at daily, and straved, and harassed.. Maybe it didn't make much difference anymore. Nah, it could never be Israel's fault. They are the Chosen people.

relnsays...

Believe it or not, suffering, poverty, and the occupation are not the main motivators in palestinians committing terrorist attacks. Its martydom.

Here's an excerpt of an article written by Nasra Hassan, a Pakistani Muslim:
SINCE 1982, I have been an international relief worker. In 1996 I was posted to the Gaza Strip during one of the most vicious cycles of suicide bombings. To understand why certain young men voluntarily blow themselves up in the name of Islam, I began, without official sponsorship, to research their backgrounds and the beliefs that had led them to such extreme tactics.

From 1996 to 1999, I interviewed nearly 250 people involved in the most militant camps of the Palestinian cause: volunteers who, like S, had been unable to complete their suicide missions, the families of dead bombers, and the men who trained them.

None of the suicide bombers — they ranged in age from 18 to 38 — conformed to the typical profile of the suicidal personality. None of them was uneducated, desperately poor, simple-minded, or depressed. Many were middle-class and held paying jobs. Two were the sons of millionaires. They all seemed entirely normal members of their families. They were polite and serious, and in their communities were considered to be model youths. Most were bearded. All were deeply religious.

The bomber’s family and the sponsoring organisation celebrate his martyrdom with festivities, as if it were a wedding. Hundreds of guests congregate at the house to offer congratulations. The hosts serve the juices and sweets that the young man specified in his will. Often, the mother will ululate in joy over the honour that Allah has bestowed upon her family.

Read the full article here http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,7-1692606,00.html

gwaansays...

That times article is a load of rubbish - the typical line you get from people who like to paint all Muslims as crazy fanaticals. This article is much better:

http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/news/archives/2006/08/11/what_really_motivates_suicide_bombers.html

Professor Robert Pape of the University of Chicago the author of Dying to Win: The Strategic Logic of Suicide Terrorism, who has conducted the most in-depth research into the motivations of suicide bombers argues that the Martydom explanation of suicide bombing is totally wrong.

His main conclusion is that suicide bombing is less about religious fundamentalism than secular or political grievances:

"There's a faulty premise in the current strategy on the war on terrorism. That faulty premise is that suicide terrorism and al- Qaida suicide terrorism in particular is mainly driven by an evil ideology Islamic fundamentalism independent of other circumstances.

However, the facts are that since 1980, suicide terrorist attacks from around the world over half have been secular. What over 95% of suicide attacks around the world [are about] is not religion, but a specific strategic purpose - to compel modern democracies to withdraw military forces from the territory that the terrorists view as their homeland or prize greatly and this is, in fact, a centrepiece of al-Qaida's strategic logic, which is to compel the United States and western countries to abandon military commitments on the Arabian peninsula."

Those who oppose Palestine, and support America's presence in the Middle East like to paint a picture of crazy religious fanatics who are motivated solely by religion - this way they can condemn their actions off-hand while ignoring their true motivations.

relnsays...

Why do you say the article is a load of rubbish? The author of the article is a Pakistani Muslim. Are you going to tell me that she made up the information? Unless the article has been completely fabricated then there is no way to discredit it. This author doesnt have a reputation for making things up.

gwaansays...

You do have to be an expert on Islamic law to understand martydom. There is no reward in Islamic law simply for blowing yourself up and killing people. This is simply murder and suicide. You will only achieve your reward if your actions help the Muslim people in their fight against oppression. In other words the main motivation for martydom is strategic.

In reply to your comment:
“So what if she's an aid worker. You dont need to be an expert in Islam and palestinian law to know whether people are wealthy, depressed, suffering and so on. In fact an aid worker would probably be more reliable than an "expert" on palestinian law and islam.

relnsays...

So what if she's an aid worker. You dont need to be an expert in Islam and palestinian law to know whether people are wealthy, depressed, suffering and so on. In fact an aid worker would probably be more reliable than an "expert" on palestinian law and islam.

I agree with you that theres no reward in Islamic law for blowing up people but that is what they are taught.

Here see this video:
http://www.videosift.com/video/Teaching-Children-To-Become-Martyrs-An-Aid-Worker-Speaks


aidossays...

look at it another way. remove the strife and oppression from the situation. imagine just for a second that the Palestinian people had no reason to be angry at Israel. do you think, as you seem to be suggesting, that they'd be blowing themselves up to prove that they're big men?

ghostcakesays...

" You do have to be an expert on Islamic law to understand martydom. There is no reward in Islamic law simply for blowing yourself up and killing people. This is simply murder and suicide. You will only achieve your reward if your actions help the Muslim people in their fight against oppression. In other words the main motivation for martydom is strategic."

Uh-huh.

Ever heard of the phrase "Allahu Ackbar"? "God is great". It has a lot to with religion, and culture. Radical Islam is enstilling a certain mentality in Muslims, and they justify it by the supposed injustices caused by the the West and the Jews. I'm not talking about the peaceful aspects most Muslims adopt, but radical Islam. While some might be motivated solely by political reasons, most Islamic martyrs are generally culturally religious.

gwaansays...

"supposed injustices " - The appalling treatment of the Palestinians for over fifty years is a very real injustice. The collective punishment of the Lebanese people is a very real injustice. American support for tyranical governments in the Middle East and wider Islamic world is a very real injustice.

Farhad2000says...

"Radical Islam is enstilling a certain mentality in Muslims, and they justify it by the supposed injustices caused by the the West and the Jews"

Am Muslim and you don't see me blowing up my fellow peers in America. Why don't you see what the American Association for Muslims says about the issue at their website. They must be pretty relevant since there are close to 6 million in America.

aidossays...

I don't doubt that there are those who are able to use the martyrdom element within the religion to inspire people to take the actions they do, just as there are those in the West able to convince people that their kids should give their lives "for God and country".

You are, however, going to have a pretty hard time convincing me that the religion is looking for people to become martyrs and that the current tensions just provide a good excuse for making it happen.

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