not bad at all, especially in recent light of events. I wish, however, that he would cover other scenarios with more open area, like a library for example.

Moving this video to ant's personal queue. It failed to receive enough votes to get sifted up to the front page within 2 days.

Excellent vid and should be required viewing by all, especially in today's environment. Two thumbs way up!

*quality

Boosting this quality contribution up in the Hot Listing - declared quality by Grimm.

What is "todays environment"?

Good stuff. It would be a bummer if they were the first targets though.

Hopefully people would remember these techniques but imo anyone who has enough resolve to not panic in a situation like this would be much better off with a firearm.

Most of the people who panic will probably forget all of these instructions anyway.

How about.. manufacturing or owning live ammunition is a mandatory five years in a supermax making Haliburton gear for free?

I know you said it sarcastically, but the National Counterterrorism Center's own report calls it "open source reporting", so good luck on finding a real answer. However, it also says that "most were victims of attacks in Iraq".

Not very good tactics - at least from what I saw.. Good for feeling more than helpless but really ineffective and a bit dishonest.

The trainers know the real deal, but are obviously providing training under restricted parameters.

Nobody is going to come through the door like that and most walls will not protect you.

The worst part is trying to put down an attacker like that. If he has a rifle you might stand a chance, if he has a handgun - its not going to work out most times. If he has a knife, it's even worse.

You need way more people by the door and they should all be in contact in a human chain.

If you are armed only with your hands against someone with a gun/knife - you have put yourself in the worse position possible with the least probability of survival.

How do you know it's ineffective? "A bit dishonest"? What's that all about?

Deano, I added a little more to my post, - I felt that the senarios he played out were unrealistic and I also didn't hear any preparation for what they would really be facing. They need to hear that how ugly and bad its really going to be and to never give up. Not this la la land that they you can throw books and viola surprise attack him to the ground by the door.

Even if he takes out one person if the rest are gang-tackling him i.e doing something, then this advice strikes me as solid.

The point here is to take action. Also you're watching a small excerpt from a training course given by a guy who clearly knows what he's doing.

I will have to expand on what I posted later (at work now) - but I am sure that you are right that the guy clearly knows what he is doing. Most legit instructors are very well trained - but that is also why I feel this is a bit of misleading training - a very large part of this "training" is to allow these people to feel empowered (which does have value),

It's only a small excerpt but it's all I have to go on until I see more.

What I saw is that these two very scripted scenarios are based the assumption that the shooter is going to come in through the door like that - once that doesn't in fact happen it all falls apart. There are other many problems as well.

It's like when someone wants to show you a martial arts move they learned and ask you to grab their hand... then they say no wait - grab the other hand... because that's what they trained for.

It also seemed a very PG rated training.

These are just kids without any formal training. ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QF50kO_SG0 ) At a minimum they need to be prepared to go against this. Just one adult shooter at the level of these kids is going to clear those rooms against the two scenarios above. They would be much better off locking the door and turning off the light. If you want to fight the shooter, the tactics in the video are not going to cut it, you need to take the initiative from the shooter.

I'd say save the $385.00 this course is going to cost you and buy a Taser.

That's the reality.

I don't often do this BUT.. LOL!

Nice troll.

I am not trolling. If it seems like I am from my last post - then I must have done a poor job making my point - it happens - but it is not my point to troll. I was trying to show the fact that these days even a kid knows how to sweep a room.

It's not rocket science. Don't be a sheep and accept something because an "expert" told you something. Think for yourself. - if you were one of those nutcases on a rampage - don't you think you might be checking the corners before entering a room.

I was tipping around the issue, but flat out, I think this guy is capitalizing on fear and cashing in the checks. I am not saying he doesn't know his shit - I think he def does and is a genuine bad ass - but that doesn't mean these are good tactics, it means he gets paid more for teaching you this garbage than a 2 min lesson that says lock the door and turn off the lights if you are unarmed.

Having an instructor give you straight talk - like you need to grab his gun while forcibly stabbing his face/eyes and with your pen puts people out of their comfort zone and doesn't sell as well to corporations. These feel good vids like this one do sell well and give people a sense of security that is misplaced.

Prepare for the enemy you will be facing, not the one you wish you were facing..

These people are not getting the training they think are - well at least not from what I saw in these clips.

How would you enter a room with daddy's rifle because the world is shit and nobody respects you?
Discuss.

I'm confused about what you are asking. Are you asking how crazed people usually act during one of these terrible things? Or was this just a tongue in cheek kind of comment?

Rush a gun, run from knife. Gun excel in distance, knifes on contact.

Just saying the situation is insane and anything could happen. If you can get a couple of clear headed guys to jump him on the way in amongst all the screaming and fear and panic then thats a huge achievement under the circumstances. Course you might still get perforated.