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What is an "Obama birther" ?

A "birther" is someone who believes that Obama was not born in the United States. They reason that since he is not a "natural" citizen, he cannot be legally president.

aka "a fuckwit"

A "birther" is someone who believes that Obama was not born in the United States. They reason that since he is not a "natural" citizen, he cannot be legally president.

Belief that Obama is not a natural-born citizen stem from FACTS:

* Obama has never been able (or willing) to produce a valid United States birth certificate.
* The Hawaiian "Certification of Live Birth" is NOT a birth certificate.
* No Hawaiian doctor has stepped forward to claim he witnessed the birth.
* "Obama’s grandmother on his father’s side, his half-brother and half-sister all claim Obama was born not in Hawaii but in Kenya.
* "Upon investigation into the alleged birth of Obama in Honolulu, Hawaii, Obama’s birth is reported as occurring at two (2) separate hospitals, Kapiolani Hospital and Queens Hospital. Wikipedia English Version, under the subject “Barack Obama,” states Obama was born at Kapiolani Hospital. Wikipedia Italian Version, under the subject “Queens Hospital,” states Barack Obama was born in Queens Hospital."

Here's the wikipedia summary of Philip J. Berg, a Democrat who filed the lawsuit challenging Obama's qualifications to be President.

(Berg)...is a former deputy attorney general of Pennsylvania, a 9/11 conspiracy theorist, and an activist attorney who brought a RICO lawsuit charging president George W. Bush and 154 others with complicity in the 9/11 attacks, and another suit challenging the eligibility of Barack Obama to become President of the United States.

The burden of proof in this matter is on Team Obama.

But McCain was born in Panama...and I'm pretty sure Ronald Reagan was born in the Garden of Eden.

Fuck that... I say the burden of proof rests on you, QM. Obama is already President, and I don't think that there's much that can bed done to reverse his (landslide) win. Have at 'er.

>> ^quantumushroom:
A "birther" is someone who believes that Obama was not born in the United States. They reason that since he is not a "natural" citizen, he cannot be legally president.
Belief that Obama is not a natural-born citizen stem from FACTS:
Obama has never been able (or willing) to produce a valid United States birth certificate.
The Hawaiian "Certification of Live Birth" is NOT a birth certificate.
No Hawaiian doctor has stepped forward to claim he witnessed the birth.
"Obama’s grandmother on his father’s side, his half-brother and half-sister all claim Obama was born not in Hawaii but in Kenya.
"Upon investigation into the alleged birth of Obama in Honolulu, Hawaii, Obama’s birth is reported as occurring at two (2) separate hospitals, Kapiolani Hospital and Queens Hospital. Wikipedia English Version, under the subject “Barack Obama,” states Obama was born at Kapiolani Hospital. Wikipedia Italian Version, under the subject “Queens Hospital,” states Barack Obama was born in Queens Hospital."
Here's the wikipedia summary of Philip J. Berg, a Democrat who filed the lawsuit challenging Obama's qualifications to be President.
(Berg)...is a former deputy attorney general of Pennsylvania, a 9/11 conspiracy theorist, and an activist attorney who brought a RICO lawsuit charging president George W. Bush and 154 others with complicity in the 9/11 attacks, and another suit challenging the eligibility of Barack Obama to become President of the United States.
The burden of proof in this matter is on Team Obama.

EVEN if Obama was born in Kenya, he would likely be eligible to be president.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_born_citizen_of_the_United_States

The court has never ruled on what "natural born citizen" actually means. But the child of a US citizen, born anywhere, is a US citizen (as long as the parent actually lived in the US for a while).

Three Republicans born to US citizens in foreign countries have run for president -- George W. Romney (Mitt's dad) in 1968, Lowell Weicker in 1980, then of course John McCain, who was born in Colon, Panama which is NOT part of the Panama Canal Zone.

Complicating all of this is that the laws have changed since McCain and Obama have been born. In 2003 Republican Orrin Hatch proposed a bill to clarify that citizens for 20 years or those born abroad to US parents can be president.

Of course, it's a purely academic matter right now, since only a tin-foil hat Truther or racist would think that Obama wasn't born in Hawaii.

>> ^quantumushroom:


The burden of proof in this matter is on Team Obama.


Incorrect. Obama is the defendant; the people that have brought challenges to his citizenship are the plaintiff. In a court of law, the burden of proof always falls on the plaintiff. In every case brought before a court, the platiffs have failed to meet the burden of proof.

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