I'm sure the similarity to the ACORN video is purely coincidental.

The investigation is being conducted by the city of New York, though I can't really see how they're getting all the way to Ohio or Nevada for it.
http://www.videosift.com/video/Undercover-At-Gun-Shows-Exposing-The-Loophole has some more info too.

Actually it is a very interesting question: is it illegal for two private citizens to exchange a gun? At least one of the guys clearly states that he isn't a gun dealer.

I don't know, anyone?

You should look at your particular state laws.

As far as I know each state's law will cover the trading of firearms between two citizens.

>> ^ponceleon:
Actually it is a very interesting question: is it illegal for two private citizens to exchange a gun? At least one of the guys clearly states that he isn't a gun dealer.
I don't know, anyone?


There are two types of gun sales in the U.S. – licensed, regulated sales, and private, unregulated sales.

A dealer engaged in the business of selling guns must be a federally licensed firearm dealer (FFL) and check their buyers through the National Instant Background Check System (NICS).

However, private individuals who make occasional sales from their personal collection can sell firearms without a license. Because private sellers are presumed to make only occasional sales, their sales are minimally regulated. Private sellers aren’t required to keep records of their sales, or conduct background checks on their buyers.

>> ^jfxz27:
>> ^ponceleon:
There are two types of gun sales in the U.S. – licensed, regulated sales, and private, unregulated sales.
A dealer engaged in the business of selling guns must be a federally licensed firearm dealer (FFL) and check their buyers through the National Instant Background Check System (NICS).
However, private individuals who make occasional sales from their personal collection can sell firearms without a license. Because private sellers are presumed to make only occasional sales, their sales are minimally regulated. Private sellers aren’t required to keep records of their sales, or conduct background checks on their buyers.


So with this in mind, doesn't this video just become a bit "so what?" It isn't an actual gun-store, so are they implying that this is something that should change? Keep in mind, I'm fairly liberal and most sifters who know me will attest to that, but this just seems like much ado about nothing.

It isn't illegal so I wouldn't even call it a "loophole."

Finally, someone has the guts to blow the lid off of this completely unrealistic scenario.

1. If someone wants a gun but can't pass a background check, they sure as hell aren't going to bring it up with a seller they don't know.

2. There's no way for the seller to know a person's past, so they have to assume (rightly) that any person who can't pass a background check is going to lie about it.

3. I doubt anyone took this guy's statements seriously, because that is not normal behavior for a criminal who is attempting to bypass a background check.


Maybe next they can make a video where they walk up to police officers and say "I hope you aren't going to search me, because I doubt I hid my drugs very well."

edit-NM.. missed where what I stated was already stated >.<

Over the past summer, the FBI and other agencies at the federal and state levels, were cracking down on questionable sales. This was due to a number of instances, in which, arms were being sent abroad to foreign conflicts. The closest to the USA, is the Mexican drug war. Many of the arms seized were found to have been purchased in the states, and very closely to the way the narrator went about his 'buys'. In some cases, the drug cartels would hire 'Americanized' looking people to go buy the firearms, and then pay the person handsomely to take it 'off their hands'. I am not sure if this is still going on or not. But, I would bet fair money the practice goes on.

It is simply to bad, that anyone selling a firearm is not required to pass a background check, regardless of how often they sell. If someone REALLY needs a firearm quickly, it should be VERY reasonable to ask why. Sucidual persons, those about to break the law, those fearing some event or moment, etc. Law enforcement officals should be notified. That would be the responsible action.