Anderson Cooper apologizes for media complicity in the Tillman cover-up. His apology comes a week before the Tillman documentary is released which exposes how the government and mainstream media used Pat Tillman’s death to promote the war.

Pat Tillman's father to Army investigator: Fuck you... and yours.

Army medical examiners concluded Tillman was shot three times in the head from just 10 yards away. Friendly fire? Yeah, right.

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Watched the Documentary it was really good. It's amazing to me how no one has paid through their ass for the misuse of this tragedy. I don't understand how this culture can be so callus as to look at lies and deception from the media and lump it in with "Freedom of Speech". It's not, it's deliberate deception and their should be fucking consequences.

Why don't we make that a law? Whenever someone uses the media to knowingly deceive they're put in fucking jail. It's very hard to prove which is a good thing but in this case it's open and fucking shut.

I believe their rifles fire three shots with each pull of the trigger, so being shot three times doesn't necessarily mean anything.

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Army medical examiners concluded Tillman was shot three times in the head from just 10 yards away. Friendly fire? Yeah, right.

>> ^AeroMechanical:

I believe their rifles fire three shots with each pull of the trigger, so being shot three times doesn't necessarily mean anything.
>> ^marbles:
Army medical examiners concluded Tillman was shot three times in the head from just 10 yards away. Friendly fire? Yeah, right.



It doesn't? It makes it hard to sell the lie that it was an Al-Qaeda ambush.

New documents shed light on Tillman’s death:
“The medical evidence did not match up with the scenario as described,” a doctor who examined Tillman’s body after he was killed on the battlefield in Afghanistan in 2004 told investigators.

The doctors — whose names were blacked out — said that the bullet holes were so close together that it appeared the Army Ranger was cut down by an M-16 fired from a mere 10 yards or so away.
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Army attorneys sent each other congratulatory e-mails for keeping criminal investigators at bay as the Army conducted an internal friendly-fire investigation that resulted in administrative, or non-criminal, punishments.

The three-star general who kept the truth about Tillman’s death from his family and the public told investigators some 70 times that he had a bad memory and couldn’t recall details of his actions.

No evidence at all of enemy fire was found at the scene — no one was hit by enemy fire, nor was any government equipment struck.
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It has been widely reported by the AP and others that Spc. Bryan O’Neal, who was at Tillman’s side as he was killed, told investigators that Tillman was waving his arms shouting “Cease fire, friendlies, I am Pat (expletive) Tillman, damn it!” again and again.

Yes, but that's exactly what friendly fire is.

>> ^AeroMechanical:

Yes, but that's exactly what friendly fire is.

No, it's not.


Friendly fire is inadvertent firing towards one's own or otherwise friendly forces while attempting to engage enemy forces, particularly where this results in injury or death. A death resulting from a negligent discharge is not considered friendly fire. Neither is murder, whether premeditated or in the heat of the moment,...

>> ^Yogi:

Watched the Documentary it was really good. It's amazing to me how no one has paid through their ass for the misuse of this tragedy. I don't understand how this culture can be so callus as to look at lies and deception from the media and lump it in with "Freedom of Speech". It's not, it's deliberate deception and their should be fucking consequences.
Why don't we make that a law? Whenever someone uses the media to knowingly deceive they're put in fucking jail. It's very hard to prove which is a good thing but in this case it's open and fucking shut.


Yea I've been thinking about that recently too. My solution would be to put the jail in outer space. It would be awesome for all parties!

An example of friendly fire would be my grandfather getting shot in the hands in WW2 because the guys in the trenches weren't sticking their heads up to look where they were firing. But holding their gun up and shooting anyway...and shooting the guys in front of them in the hands, heads, etc in the process.

One guy getting shot, it being covered up, and used as a call to arms.......well that's just wrong on a much worse level than simple friendly fire. Although I doubt it would have happened if it had been a well known Senator's son, because they try to protect them. Wouldn't want to lose the support of the politicians.

I haven't seen anything that suggested it was murder, just really poor trigger discipline.

>> ^AeroMechanical:

I haven't seen anything that suggested it was murder, just really poor trigger discipline.


Keep telling yourself that. The medical examiners thought otherwise.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2007-07-26-tillman-friendly-fire_N.htm
"The doctors — whose names were blacked out — said that the bullet holes were so close together that it appeared the Army Ranger was cut down by an M-16 fired from a mere 10 yards or so away."

The medical examiners wanted a criminal investigation, but...
"Army attorneys sent each other congratulatory e-mails for keeping criminal investigators at bay as the Army conducted an internal friendly-fire investigation that resulted in administrative, or non-criminal, punishments."

"No evidence at all of enemy fire was found at the scene — no one was hit by enemy fire, nor was any government equipment struck."

How does one mistake fellow Army Rangers in Army Humvees for enemy when they don't return fire and engage them for 10+ minutes and then get ten yards away from the most recognizable person in the platoon shouting his name and shoot him in the head with a 3 round burst?

... because of "poor trigger discipline"? Yeah, right.