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All good points but I still can't believe Ron Paul, as smart as that man is, allowed that hateful racist shit to be published under his name.

edit- and I especially can not believe that he did not know about those articles, nor that he never read them!

Agreed.
However how could any black person vote Democrat, the party that created the KKK to keep people from voting Republican? The Vast majority of Blacks were Republican all the wall up through Dr. Martin Luther King. Then things changed. Strange that the party of lynching became the party of entitlements which in-turned re-enslaved people. >> ^therealblankman:

All good points but I still can't believe Ron Paul, as smart as that man is, allowed that hateful racist shit to be published under his name.

You can find groups of black people on the internet who have a variety of perspectives and beliefs. What do these clips prove again?

I hate when white people use token blacks to excuse anti-black behavior.

>> ^bobknight33:

Agreed.
However how could any black person vote Democrat, the party that created the KKK to keep people from voting Republican? The Vast majority of Blacks were Republican all the wall up through Dr. Martin Luther King. Then things changed. Strange that the party of lynching became the party of entitlements which in-turned re-enslaved people. >> ^therealblankman:
All good points but I still can't believe Ron Paul, as smart as that man is, allowed that hateful racist shit to be published under his name.



Well, what happened was that the southern Democrats and "Dixiecrats" abandoned the party in droves thanks to the civil rights reforms started under JFK and consummated under Lyndon Johnson with the 1964 Civil Rights Act and the later Voting Rights Act. Those same southern rednecks and racists found a warm reception in the Republican party and now form the base for that party and its radical wing, the "Tea Party". These same people are also behind the more recent gerrymandering in Texas and elsewhere, as well as the blatantly racist tactic of denying poor blacks and other minorities their franchise under the guise of "Voter Registration Reform".

Lyndon Johnson. Man, you've got to hand it to him. The man had them all fooled... they thought he was one of them, a "Good Old Boy", and would maintain the status quo of racism and segregation. He turned out to be the greatest Presidential advocate for civil rights since Lincoln. Call me a revisionist, but leaving Vietnam aside (which is impossible, I know) Johnson was truly heroic in forcing civil rights down their collective bigoted throats. A lot of heroes came out of that time, a lot of martyrs too- including Martin Luther King.

I would normally agree with your "Token blacks" statement buuuut..

This isn't a group of black republicans defending Rush Limbaugh for calling all poor black single mothers deadbeat swindlers because they accept assistance.

If anything, this proves the magnitude of the situation "our country" is in.

When blacks would rather vote for an old homophobic racist rather than help re-elect "one of their own".. You know there's something up.

I'm not going to suggest some malarkey about how "this is the beginning of a new post-racial society" because that will never happen..

Tho it is nice to see the black group-think status quo busted up a bit more, for the better.
>> ^longde:

I hate when white people use token blacks to excuse anti-black behavior.

There is no black group-think status quo. That is a myth created by people who want to discount prevailing black opinions and thought. That's the premise of this video, and why its logic is deeply flawed. >> ^GenjiKilpatrick:

I would normally agree with your "Token blacks" statement buuuut..
This isn't a group of black republicans defending Rush Limbaugh for calling all poor black single mothers deadbeat swindlers because they accept assistance.
If anything, this proves the magnitude of the situation "our country" is in.
When blacks would rather vote for an old homophobic racist rather than help re-elect "one of their own".. You know there's something up.
I'm not going to suggest some malarkey about how "this is the beginning of a new post-racial society" because that will never happen..
Tho it is nice to see the black group-think status quo busted up a bit more, for the better.
>> ^longde:
I hate when white people use token blacks to excuse anti-black behavior.

Sorry @longde, not to be too rude but.. you clearly don't know what the hell you're talking about.

The way the majority of Californian blacks voted for Proposition 8 [Nov 2008] show clear signs of groupthink.

http://www.psysr.org/about/pubs_resources/groupthink%20overview.htm

[3 & 4 mainly].

I'm gonna assume you're a white dude viewing this video thru a lens of what appears to be white guilt.
Which is alright, but it definitely limits your understanding of my point I guess.

Tho as a half blackie with a vehement black power father, I'll have to assure you I know just how inculcated old black men can become on positions of race and morality. [Never torture your kids by taking them to NAACP meetings please]

Moreover, since RACE DOESN'T EXIST - only skin tones and culture - it's even dumber for you, white people, black people or any people to be upset about this group of black people for supporting "anti-black" rhetoric.

I'll discuss this further if your want to understand these people's reasoning better. Late for work right now tho.

Peace

One vote proves groupthink? Seriously?

I can show you votes where a majority of any particular group votes one way. On that particular election, there are other explanations: 1) the mormons heavily canvassed black communities, while the opponents of the measure took it for granted blacks would vote for their issue. 2) the rampant anti-black racism present in many pockets of the gay community in California.

On your link, I could pick out the qualities on that list and apply them to any given ethnic group, if I were to use stereotyping and conjecture, as you have done.

Race is a social construct, with real consequences for the people put in a group by society. Blackness in America is defined by appearance and the "one drop rule". Blackness is also defined by a shared culture and history, especially due to the forced isolation of black americans over the years. Given that, for you to flippantly say that blackness doesn't even exist (and to imply that by extension anti-black messages and bigotry similarly don't exist) is absurd and kind of arrogant.

All that said, the black american community still has a rainbow of perspectives, political views, religious views, aesthetic tastes, etc, that belies the premise of this video.

Don't work too hard. Peace out.

>> ^GenjiKilpatrick:

Sorry @longde, not to be too rude but.. you clearly don't know what the hell you're talking about.
The way the majority of Californian blacks voted for Proposition 8 [Nov 2008] show clear signs of groupthink.
http://www.psysr.org/about/pubs_resources/groupthink%20overview.htm
[3 & 4 mainly].
I'm gonna assume you're a white dude viewing this video thru a lens of what appears to be white guilt.
Which is alright, but it definitely limits your understanding of my point I guess.
Tho as a half blackie with a vehement black power father, I'll have to assure you I know just how inculcated old black men can become on positions of race and morality. [Never torture your kids by taking them to NAACP meetings please]
Moreover, since RACE DOESN'T EXIST - only skin tones and culture - it's even dumber for you, white people, black people or any people to be upset about this group of black people for supporting "anti-black" rhetoric.
I'll discuss this further if your want to understand these people's reasoning better. Late for work right now tho.
Peace

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