The rest of the doco (this being part 1)can be found http://www.break.com/LooseChangeLies

debunked each other, fools are fools, and experts are fools......this is a dupe

Nah, it got discarded....

truth is as always, one believes what will make one comfortably unconscious....suspended animation demolitions....
again...

Does anyone have all the data, to form anymore of an hypothesis, than an emotional editorial???

Answer....not yes, unless you are a moron....

and most people are......

The lose change people r idoits thay are ignorent zelots thay are more intrestead in proving there preconceptoin rather than tring to find the truth. can we not make a list of definative things that need to be soreted out regarding sep11th

1) no footage of a plane hitting pentagon with plenty of confiscated film that should show resnably clearly a plane. ( this happend in england there is no footage of the bombers in the underground evan though england has god knows how manay camars all over the place)

2) boulding 7 colapsed in a very controled mannor. evan though it had minimul damage. evan if it had major structual damage whitch is a posability it still fell more ore less verticaly which hasnot happend before with sutch a structure and would be unlikly to happen in these sercomstances if from damage alone.

3) the adioe and sysmick recordings of multiple explisoins that were seperate from the plane impacts.

and then find out who in the govement was directly responsable for blocking fbi and securty actoins. and the compleat incompitence if it was that regarding the inteligence operatoins,

Like Maddox sez: if the Conspiracy was willing to kill thousands on 9-11, why would they hesitate to wipe out this kollij doofus and everyone he knows.

The same people who think it's a Conspiracy are equally blind to islamofascism in the world. Head in the sand.

1. at 500mph the plane travels 222M in 1 second (over 1/8 mile) the security cams wouldn't really capture anything moving that fast in detail.

2. Building 7 had 20% of it taken out by the towers/debris it was coming down..

3. seen vid of an implosion? 1 window popping out does not a n explosion make.

upvote for voice of reason and for conspiracy theorists revealing themselves as the incredibly juvenile self-righteous douchebags they clearly are.

And yet the government still refuses to release any of the security camera tapes from either the pentagon incident or, for that matter, the Oklahoma City bombing incident. OK bombing was what.. 7 years ago? Why do they hide them if they have nothing to hide?

Even if they released the tapes, conspiracy nuts would only say they were CG'd up, and they prove nothing... the ones that might actually prove something might be quite horrific...

the problem is there is a defind difrence between conspircy nuts and people who dont just take the first ore second thing thay hear as final.

i would like to know why boulding 7 fell how it did evan if it was 90% damaged it would still be remarcable for it to fall down how it did.

i wish people were not so binary . just becuse the lose change kids r retards dosenot make everyone who thinks there is something more going on than the oficeal report a conspicy nut.
the bush administratoin is a joke along with the rest of higher amercan goverment. shouting terror 24,7 when we live in probably the safest time to live

"upvote for voice of reason and for conspiracy theorists revealing themselves as the incredibly juvenile self-righteous douchebags they clearly are."


Sounds juvenile and self-righteous to me.

The Loose Change guys would get more respect if they didn't act like chumps.

Loose Change? More like CHUMP change! (w/ apologies to teh Fletch).

i dont care what these people on this vid say -
this isnt like the fake moon landing conspiracies, it isnt even a conspiracy. it's questions the public have that need explaining. it's obvious there are things about 9/11 that have been covered up. watch news broadcasts on the wtc bombing in the 90s for some clues. it's possible the CIA have some part to play in the attacks

Always in the comments, no matter where the vid is, there are people defending the Loose Changers. At first I thought it was the kids themselves, but the defense is too widespread to just be people involved in the video... It's like some kind of intertube conspiracy!

"it's possible the CIA have some part to play in the attacks"

WHO ARE YOU PEOPLE?! It's possible aliens had something to do with the attacks, same evidence to sustain the argument.

Why the CIA? Why not NSA, FBI, former KGB and the Canadian Mounties all working together with Big Bird and Yosemite Sam for a New World Order dominated by druid illuminati pagan vampire cannibal Israeli midget circus performers?

Big Bird is going to kill you people if you continue speaking the truth about 911, so you better shut up or I will straight call his yellow a$$ and tell him the score, hear?

I am as skeptical and paranoid about government as it gets (within reason), and have no doubt that there is more to the 9/11 story (and just about every major historical event) than we are told. But man oh man, these kids are douchebags.

The CIA has something to do with the attacks because many of the terrorists that the government cited as having piloted the planes actually were on CIA payrolls since the mid to late 90's. The CIA actually has had it's hand in quite a lot of things in history, and it's really quite extraordinary.

I especially like the CIA's involvement in the Banana Republic and Cuba/The Bay of Pigs. Quite interesting stuff.

Besides just that, it's well known within MI circles, of the quiet battle between the FBI and the CIA in the 60s, due in large part to Kennedy.

As far as these kids - yeah, they're being jerks, but they're also quite angry. If you've been trying to find out how good of a country your country is and instead had many of your requests go unanswered, wouldn't you be angry as well? Try it - that's my best advice. File a FOIA request to try to get the information yourself. Originally, these kids were trying to do a docu to debunk the kids that were challenging 9/11(as one of the creators, Corey Rowe, actually went to Afghanistan and Iraq on a tour of duty). They failed to back the story that various agencies in the U.S. gov produced, and their docu became one of the most well known of those that challenge the stories told about 9/11.

I suggest trying to make a docu about 9/11 yourself - try to get all of the information, and enough evidence to support whichever view you hold(evidence - not just a baseless story that you looked up, or a report you found). When you get frustrated from having your FOIA requests go unanswered, or answered with "information is classified," well, you'll eventually end up on a democracy now interview being a jerk to people, yourself.

haha, 'loose change researcher' is the guy's tag line. good luck in the future with that little gold star on your resume.

FOIA is actually quite an interesting process. http://www.usdoj.gov/oip/04_1.html Give some of the literature on it a go on a rainy day. The government can only deny you something in specific instances, but typically will only release items expressly asked for... also, items seized by the government can be very awkward to request, such as video tapes which they do not hold copyright for. There are a few independent groups investigation the impact of 2002 FOIA changes, which should be interesting to read about in a years time.

... if you want something unrelated to the current war and to current foreign affairs or practices, just word the FOIA requests specifically enough, and any 'kept secret in the interest of national defense or foreign policy' withholding will not stand. The real problem is vague probes with FOIA request... you must know what you want, demonstrate how it is not exempt, and request the item exactly.

... for some reason i doubt these kids have filed a single FOIA request, nor do they care to, as they have traveled too far down one road to entertain the idea that maybe they took a wrong turn a few years ago. Please direct me to any evidence that contradicts this assumption.

found a fun quote later in this interview, from the transcript:
"JAMES MEIGS: You know, this is a wonderful example of how conspiracy theories work. Any time there’s a little bit of doubt, a little bit of area where we don't know everything, then the answer immediately is, well, someone must have blown it up. It’s a form of argumentation that’s also used by creationists. If they can find one little gap in the evolutionary record, they say evolution’s a hoax."

I liked the bit where the gap-tooth idiot said (in part 4 i think) "I'm not calling anyone a liar YOUR A LIAR!"

Lord. It is somewhat difficult to watch when the harsh light of reason exposes charlatans whether they are faith healers, Uri Geller, or the Loose Change boys.

Again, I support continuing investigation into this event. But the Loose Changers are not investigating. They have come to a conclusion and have not adequately supported that conclusion. And anyone who disagrees with them is a liar, sinner, or a CIA agent.

I also doubt that they have ever experienced the fun and the joy of the FOIA maze.

I was hoping to see some debate and maybe an answer or two proffered for a few of the questions I, and many others, still have. All the tsk'ing, eye-rolling, fanatical tone (imo), and the overall way the Loose Changers carried themselves made me think they'd be more at home throwing bricks through store windows at what are meant to be peaceful protests. I still want answers, but not from these bozos.

I thinks it's interesting how much play these super-conspiracy theorists get when a simple conspiracy, like the hijackers were US agents, or agents of an organization other than al-qaeda, is much less absurd, or assailable.

When I watched the attack live, the reporters said that the democratic front of Palestine claimed responsibility, Powell made a statement within the hour that it was Osama and his buddies, and from then on out the news stuck to the official story.

"It happened and we blamed who we wanted to blame anyway", is a much more likely scenario then the default "truther" position.