David Letterman- Dave's Advice To NBC

What to do about Jay, Conan, Jimmy and that other guy? Dave shares his ideas.
Farhad2000says...

Some explanation:

Conan O'Brien signed a contract with NBC several years ago that he will get the Tonight Show. He got it in 2009, Jay Leno was supposed to retire. However NBC wants to bump the Tonight Show down in the time slot and as Jay Leno wants to get 30min comedy show.

Essentially Conan's show will be bumped down in the timing premiering at 12:00 instead of 11:30 after the late night news. Conan O'Brien feels snubbed so he is planning to leave NBC entirely this is the statement he released - http://thesuperficial.com/2010/01/breaking_conan_obrien_turns_do.php

MilkmanDansays...

I don't really like the idea, and I doubt that Conan would go for it. He was promised the show, not half of the show.

Then again, I'm not exactly a highly concerned or informed party; I haven't seen a full episode of The Tonight Show since I moved to Thailand about 2.5 years ago.

nominosays...

And on another note, if you got your dream job after working 16 years to get there, then got the rug pulled out from under you after 5 months because the guy who "retired" decided he wanted his old job back, would you share it with him? No way in hell. I wouldn't go back to my old job either. Conan must be so mad.

Lodurrsays...

It's not Leno that wants the old timeslot back; the NBC execs are moving him because his 10pm show was getting complaints from affiliates that there wasn't enough of a lead-in audience for their crappy local news. I think part of the reason is that when there's crappy crime drama before the crappy local news, people watch until the very end to see the conclusion to the crappy plot, and then might continue watching that station when the news comes on. Whereas Leno's show, like most talk shows, gets all the good material out in the first half and the second half is skippable. They tried to take care of that problem before it started by moving Jay's better segments to the end of the show--Headlines, Jaywalking--but that resulted in low ratings overall for the show and so they moved it back to the beginning.

I think the problem here is the local news programs. The whole situation is like a stadium changing their game schedule because the hot dog vendors weren't happy. The local news needs to make a better product and trim the fat on their budget to make it through some lean times. Right now they're addicted to a free ride.

Winstonfield_Pennypackersays...

On the one hand...

Conan is not really a good fit for the Tonight Show. He's a bit more 'out there' than the show's traditional audience. He has been toning it down so as to not to freak out TTS's audience, and as a result he's sort of losing the viewers he used to have. But at the same time the old viewers aren't entirely keen on him yet either, so it's the worst of both worlds. It isn't his fault really, but he has a tough row to hoe and maybe TTS isn't the best fit for his style.

But on the other hand...

Conan signed the contract for this years ago. He signed up for a time slot, and it isn't his fault that NBC is getting cold feet because they made a stupid move with the Jay Leno show experiment. If anything, NBC should just cancel Leno's show. Period. Moving Leno to a later slot, and then TTS to an even LATER slot is just stupid and I don't blame O'Brien for getting upset over this. It's bait & switch. Conan isn't dumb and hopefully he socks it to NBC in the contract.

That's what this will all come down to in the end... What NBC can get away with in the contract is the end game of this mess.

Xaielaosays...

The Tonight Show traditionally has an older audience and they really don't like Conan's style. But you know what? They can go fuck themselves because it's about TIME we get some new blood in that show and Conan is 'it'. How was Jay Leno doing 7 months in? He was bombing hard in the ratings but NBC backed him up and eventually he came out on top. I think Conan O'Brien would do the same.

But I do agree he's been toning down his 'goofy' act, which was fantastic in his old show, so he's been loosing some of that old audience. NBC needs to let him do his thing, which will attract a younger (and much more broad) audience and they'll be on top once again in Late Night.

If they force him to move the Tonight Show back (which has been in that time slot for 60+ years now) he should leave the network, go over to FOX (though I 'hate' fox) or better yet, Comedy Central at midnight, and kick both Leno and Letterman's asses!

Frankly I don't think Leno is very fun, and Letterman certainly isn't funny. I don't know why they have done so good. Perhaps it's the old comedy style they use. But that older audience will slowly disappear over the next 10 or 20 years. Then what? Both channels will be up shit creek and Conan will be 'killing'.

bmacs27says...

Honestly, it might not be that bad an idea for Conan to move the show. I'm a huge Conan fan, but I feel like his ratings problems come from Comedy Central. Bumping himself a half hour later might bring back the segment of his audience that was used to hopping over to NBC post-Colbert.

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