oh common lol you have to be somewhat naive if you don't think that most of the large western countries dont engage in assassination and secret militasry BS operatoins.

its very usfull for the goverment to not know about operatoins so thay ar enot gulty for braking the law themselvs, then when sumone gets cought thay simply pardon them ore have some bs excuse setup , just give it a while when the government rolises this wont blow over everyone will get away with it some how.

>> ^westy:
oh common lol you have to be somewhat naive if you don't think that most of the large western countries dont engage in assassination and secret militasry BS operatoins.
its very usfull for the goverment to not know about operatoins so thay ar enot gulty for braking the law themselvs, then when sumone gets cought thay simply pardon them ore have some bs excuse setup , just give it a while when the government rolises this wont blow over everyone will get away with it some how.


I'm sorry, I must be misunderstanding you. You're point is, "Everyone does it. So we should do it."? And then you go on to say, "It's beneficial to place control of an assassination squad in one man's hands so that other people don't need to know about it. This way the 'government' can break all the laws it wants to, but without repercussion."? That couldn't be right, could it? Because that would show a significant misunderstanding of the entire point of our government.

First of all, "secret military operations" are separate from political assassinations. Any military operations the CIA or armed forces engage in that are classified are "secret military operations." That's not what's being discussed here, so don't confuse the two. Political assassinations are the subject, and in case you missed the very first thing Olberman said, he read an Executive Order from 1976, from the desk of President Gerald Ford, that no member of government is to engage in or conspire to engage in political assassination. The matter at hand isn't "does [insert name of 'large western country' here] do this?" The question is, if the allegations are true, is this in direct breach of an executive order? And the answer to that is unequivocally yes.

Secondly, if it's "useful" for governments to not know about operations so "they are not guilty for breaking the law," then the person who DOES know about the operations IS breaking the law. In this case that person is Cheney. Furthermore, it is NOT useful for members of the government to break laws put in place to dictate their behavior because, wait for it, those laws are in place for a reason. It may be useful for me to kill other people. For example if I'm in the running for a promotion, but so is Steve, well It would be quite useful for me to kill Steve. This way, less competition. But there are explicit laws preventing me from doing that, and they are there for good reason. Just because people are members of government doesn't mean that they are not subject to laws. They are subject to additional laws, including one from the desk of the president of the United States explicitly forbidding the practice that Cheney is now accused of. Keeping a matter like this quiet, keeping it from other members of government, is only a way of circumventing laws that were created because what they are forbidding has been deemed improper conduct for a member of the US government. It IS improper conduct for a member of the US government. And if the allegations are true, one hopes that it builds enough steam to scrutinize the actions of the Bush-Cheney administration.

Cheney had his own Hit Squad yet Hugo Chavez, Hersh and the Olbyloon continue to breathe.

The reality is Cheney couldn't summon Kool-Aid Man to kill his thirst.

at leat now we know "what the vice-president does", the question Palin had problems answering.

Dick Cheney runs Treadstone.

Kill 'em all and let their "god" sort them out.

Soon we'll be calling him Dark Lord of the Fifth.

methinks a special independent commission to investigate..followed by the purchase of a guillotine for placement on the national mall is warranted in this case.

I am the Dark Lord's blankfist!

@ handmethekeysyou

i wasn't making an argument for what the government dose.

I was merly saying you would have to be naive to not know that thats what all/most governments do.

i meant guilty in the laws eye not ethically.

Cheney's favourite amendment is the 2nd. He acts as if he never read the rest of the bill of rights.

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