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ABC Nails Exxon and Republicans for Fake Al Gore Video

Kruposays...

Don't feel bad joedirt, it's often happened that a commentary trumps the original subject matter. Case in point: all the Daily Show clips that feature photage from other TV networks. Much more popular than the isolated clips on their own.

BTW, I'd like to point out that my prediction was, again, correct.

quantumushroomsays...

From 'mediamatters:' "As some of us have been trying to tell you, Democrats don't oppose the war on terrorism because they hate Bush: They hate Bush because he is fighting the war on terrorism. They would hate him for fighting terrorists even if he had a "D" after his name."

Speechless.

Apoptosissays...

Hmmm... is quantumushroom part of viral advertisement. You forgot to credit Ann Coultier for the quote. She's the one who said a black female senator (Waters) couldn't get a job that didn't involve a paper hat without affirmative action. Way to break the racist stereo-type Ann. How any can stand that woman is beyond me. REAL conservatives need to band together kick all the idiots.

MikeTheLiberalsays...

I always felt the "astroturf" campaign was a tool used by the GOP and corporate interests. This just shows it to be so.

Just because Clinton had an affair with Lewinsky doesn't mean there isn't a vast right-wing conspiracy!

zudosays...

So a republican working at a media firm with ExxonMobil as one of its clients throws together a video that makes no points nor counters any of V.P. Gore's. The obvious conclusion is that it was made by public relations professionals at the direction of a multi-national behemoth? Ha! Good work, ABC; you've connected the dots and come up with... a squiggly line. Every cloud looks like something to the mind of the observer.

It's ABC who is presenting the argument here. But since they couldn't tie it to more than one guy, they set it up so our naturally suspicious minds fill in from the supplied info. I can't believe they spent money investigating who made the sad satire.

Propaganda actually presents some kind of information. Penguin army just calls the movie boring. How dare! And people might believe it based on this subtle animation. Scandal. Too bad the creator of the video didn't work in the idea department instead of the graphics department. And take it home to post it.

joedirtsays...

zudo,

I have trouble suffering fools. You watched 30 seconds and are more of an expert than ABC! Bravo. Sure, you have no facts, and probably are wrong, but hey you've got a keyboard.

The guy's email headerhad an IP that was sent from and that happened to be from a DCI Group computer. Now reporters look up stuff and found out that one of DCI's biggest clients is... (drumroll) Exxon-Mobil

It's not hard to assume that a PR company putting out an viral video on YouTube made to look all amateurish isn't trying a subversive astroturf campaign. This wasn't some bored lobbyiest who happens to have a passionate hobby of making YouTube crap. If you have watched TV lately, you probably watched a huge ad campaign run my Exxon to whitewash their image and put out even more astroturf. The message being put out is that Al Gore is boring and full of it, and there is nothing to worry about. Sounds like the message I would try and put out if I was worried about people finding out about Peak Oil.

zudosays...

joedirt,

"It's not hard to assume..." Exactly. The experts at WSJ could only go so far and you're making assumptions and conspiracy out of two broad facts. C'mon ABC, take it all the way. Bring 'em down. Show me the money! But no, they've just propagated innuendo. You say Exxon-Mobil is one of DCI's "biggest" clients. Biggest clients are ones that pay the most to DCI, not that are the biggest. Are they one? Must be, huh? I mean, it surely follows.

From the WSJ article: "... computer routing information contained in an email sent from Toutsmith's Yahoo account indicate it didn't come from an amateur working out of his basement.
Instead, the email originated from a computer registered to DCI Group, a Washington, D.C., public relations and lobbying firm whose clients include oil company Exxon Mobil Corp."

That's the extent of the facts.
Aha, didn't email from his basement when he replied. Probably made the video where the resources are, at work. I've used company computers for personal projects after hours.

I'm saying it doesn't follow that a huge ad and astroturf campaign run by scads of professionals with plenty of money would produce such a low-level message, piece of crap video and release it via some guy in P.R. with no cover story. You think E-M and DCI are new to subterfuge?

What's so unusual about a bored employee adding to YouTube? Maybe it's not fair that he didn't make it from home. Sure, I could be wrong, but there is zero evidence showing more than one person involved.

Oh, and your personal attacks diminish both of us.

k8_fansays...

Sorry Zudo, but you're really stretching there. Republican-owned public relations firm computer used by staffer to post video that "just happens" to support the POV of one of the clints of the PR firm? If this was an illegal activity, and if the PR firm was sued for it, the proponderence of evidence would be that the PR firm was responsible for the video.

segn66says...

"ABC Nails Exxon and Republicans" Are you saying this is conservative?
The original video is what it is, but the ABC report is nothing to vote on. Just more liberal elite-media crap. Exxon and republicans can promote what they want. ABC said don't be sure that a video is amateur or not, but they didn't bother to say a lot of videos that may try to look professional are not. For example, stupid 9/11 conspiracy videos--ALL CRAP.

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