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http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/military_law/1227842.html?page=4#steel

Truthers take comfort in the belief that 9-11 was an inside job, I think, because it's reassuring to believe evil intent remains solely in the sphere of wealthy, civilized Caucasian cabals and that an insane Islamic menace is just a glib fabrication of warmongers.

As for Oklahoma, I guess Tim McVeigh went quietly to his execution because the conspirators threatened to kill him if he exposed them.

There can be no compromise on these subjects.

From your own link:

FACT: Jet fuel burns at 800° to 1500°F, not hot enough to melt steel (2750°F). However, experts agree that for the towers to collapse, their steel frames didn't need to melt, they just had to lose some of their structural strength — and that required exposure to much less heat. "I have never seen melted steel in a building fire," says retired New York deputy fire chief Vincent Dunn, author of The Collapse Of Burning Buildings: A Guide To Fireground Safety. "But I've seen a lot of twisted, warped, bent and sagging steel. What happens is that the steel tries to expand at both ends, but when it can no longer expand, it sags and the surrounding concrete cracks."

"Steel loses about 50 percent of its strength at 1100°F," notes senior engineer Farid Alfawak-hiri of the American Institute of Steel Construction. "And at 1800° it is probably at less than 10 percent." NIST also believes that a great deal of the spray-on fireproofing insulation was likely knocked off the steel beams that were in the path of the crashing jets, leaving the metal more vulnerable to the heat.

Two hose lines are needed, Chief Orio Palmer says from an upper floor of the badly damaged south tower at the World Trade Center. Just two hose lines to attack two isolated pockets of fire. ''We should be able to knock it down with two lines,'' he tells the firefighters of Ladder Company 15 who were following him up the stairs of the doomed tower.

Lt. Joseph G. Leavey is heard responding: ''Orio, we're on 78, but we're in the B stairway. Trapped in here. We got to put some fire out to get to you.''

Ladder 15 had finally found the fire after an arduous climb to the 78th floor, according to the tape. They were in the B stairwell. On the other side of the fire were hundreds of people, blocked from fleeing by smoke and flame on the stairs. Chief Palmer was facing similar fires in the A stairwell, across the floor.

''We're gonna knock down some fire here in the B Stair,'' Lieutenant Leavey is heard telling one of his firefighters. ''We'll meet up with you. You get over to the A Stair and help out Chief Palmer.''

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>> ^jimnms:
From your own link...

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If those fires were burning at 1500-1800°F, the people on that floor would have been dead.
I'm no conspiracy theory nutcase, but I'm also not stupid, the "official" explanations of collapse just don't match reality.


You're assuming that the entire floor is at a uniform temperature. That's not how a building fire works. The temperature only needed to be that hot in specific pockets to weaken the supports. You also don't have to weaken every single support (ie, the whole floor doesn't need to be engulfed in flames) to cause a catastrophic failure. Although built with redundancy in mind, every support beam can only take on the load of so much stress from other failing support beams before it too fails.

I know conspiracy theory-ing is fun, but there are more gaps in the conspiracy theories than in the official explanation of what happened in 9-11. That makes the official explanation "truthier" in my book.

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