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I am Spud. *promote

Thanks for the promote kp

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*promote

I saw it last night because although I resent them making it I wanted to see it before it left theatres. I still wish they hadn't made it into a movie. Primarily I object to the added violence and ham-fisted use of music. Also, that sex scene, while enjoyable, was a bit explicit for my cinematic taste. She was getting fucked pretty hard at the end there. Have to admit it's a visually stimulating movie but I found many parts fell surprisingly flat and it lacked coherence in the third act.

>> ^brycewi19:
So that's what it's like to have sex with The Jesus, I suppose!


*fixed

This is an absolutely excellent find. People are looking at me funny now for laughing out loud whilst they can see "Sex Scenes" on my monitor... Worth it though!

>> ^vaporlock:
Porn has plots now. WTF


Some of them try unsuccessfully.


>> ^Shepppard:
Hah, the movie itself isn't hardcore porn..
It's more of a comedy with softcore porn bits in it. I for one think the movie is hilarious, and the slightly bad acting only adds to it.


When they didn't recoup their production costs with the hardcore release, they reedited the sex scenes to make a softcore release. With all the video rental shops that bought it, they made enough money to make a sequel.

And Yes, I am ashamed that I know that.

Quality delivery from Carr.

The intent of creating a porno that people want to watch from start to finish is a fools errand. It's what movies like Pirates and the like have done. (Which, yes made heaps of money... not my point).

There's this current line of thinking that to make porn more acceptable to the masses, and appealing to women, you need a great story etc.

Bollocks

Pirates as a case in point, they pile on sets, costumes, some sort of vaguely workable story, terrible acting etc. AND YET, when it comes down to the actual sex... what do you have? The same, terrible sex scenes where the women are treated like objects and degraded. It's crap... and a huge turn off for most women. (There are a minority that like that I guess, but it's not the majority AT ALL). So... you have a film where you have a vaguely passable movie that you wouldn't choose to watch on its own, interspliced with sex scenes the same as in any other porno.

It's all wrong, what you need is sex where BOTH parties appear to be enjoying themselves, BOTH parties are turned on and are pleasured by the other party, and if you have that you need sweet bugger all setup. Just the minimal required to set the mood, build tension, and then on to the sex...

You really do, as Carr says here, only want to watch some of the movie, enough to get things going as it were.

(I'm talking from the point of view, mainly, of a couple watching here... which is where they're aiming with these 'adult films you actually want to watch for the sake of the film' malarky)

And now... I'll get off my dirty, dirty little porno soapbox...

Ahem.

Yeah, so... funny video

I'm home alone and have nothing better to do than respond to this thread, because a lot of the comments in here still bother me. So... here goes nothing.

>> ^MarineGunrock:
>> The video in question (Dita) is an act of grace a beauty, not a vivid depiction of sex. The act is designed to be something that one merely watches, from which they are detached and it is forever that way. It is a solo act meant to please for the sake of a good show.


WRONG! There is absolutely nothing graceful or beautiful about that (or her, really). See my comment on the performance in a minute.


Dirty books, on the other hand, are of a couple's acts in the bedroom, written to suck the reader into the characters words and actions, even letting them place themselves into the character's shoes. The book is more about being a part of the act, making the reader imagine (through ample use of details and adjectives) every part of sex. It's porn you read, and not watch, though I will say it is not disgusting or objectifying as real porn.


You know why women love romance novels? Because we can imagine it's our significant other doing everything the protagonist in the novel is. Generally it's a scene that plays out in our minds with the characters, not us (women). But even if we were picturing ourselves in that mental scene, it would be with our significant other. Because really, the sex scenes in romance novels are a lot more exciting than ones in real life. If we got enough romance, we wouldn't need to read romance novels. There's nothing disgusting or objectifying about getting a little inspiration. It's erotica - not porn.


My question to you is this: How can you tell the internet in one comment that "Even I can appreciate burlesque" but in the next, tell the internet that it's not acceptable for men with significant others to watch it, if only for art of the performance?


Burlesque is an art, but that's not burlesque. That's a terrible, terrible striptease. You haven't seen any of the great old burlesque. It originated as a sort of comedy show. Gypsy Rose Lee (who, by the way, the Warner Brothers movie "Gypsy" is about. I guarantee you Dita is not burlesque if Warner Bros. did a burlesque movie) and Sally Rand (not quite as good, I don't think, but still notable, and the woman who originated the fan dance). Do you see any comedy in Dita's "work?" I didn't think so. It used to be a complete one-act comedy show, not a two-minute, poorly-done dance where you end up in nothing but nipple pasties and a g-string. Look up some of the Bettie Page stuff on here.

P.S. "Even I can appreciate burlesque" means I like some, but not this [Dita]. For someone who admits they've only seen two clips of burlesque, how dare you confront me on something like that? Look up the history of burlesque. Maybe watch someone other than Dita von Teese. It's like someone saying they don't like a particular artist, or a particular period in art history. It doesn't mean I dislike every painting ever made, or that no one should look at art anymore because I decided I don't like it. Burlesque has never been about the ability to strip down from a dress to pasties and a g-string in less than 20 seconds. There's nothing burlesque about her act - it's a striptease, pure and simple.


I hold that burlesque is only that; an art. I personally don't get any arousal from it, not does it raise any carnal desires within myself. Hell, I've only seen two instances of it, both here on the sift. The female body, with all it's curves, is designed to flow like water in almost all directions. Combined with graceful movements and a dynamic act, it is a thing of grace and beauty.


Oh please. You just admitted yourself you've only ever seen two instances of burlesque. How can you possibly go on about how graceful it is, and how it's such a glorious artform, when you've seen two "dances," both by the same woman?

>> ^MarineGunrock:
As I looked around, I saw (obviously) many women in bikinis. Don't get me wrong, there's nothing bad about bikinis, but it got me thinking about the whole "objectification" thing. If women, as a whole, don't want to be objectified, why wear such a reveling swim suit when there are plenty of good looking alternatives? [edit] What I'm saying it that it opens them up to it.
And for that matter, why put make up on?


1) You've heard it before, but it obviously bears repeating - Women don't dress up for men. They dress up for other women. I shouldn't have to think every morning when I get dressed, "If I see someone with a penis today, will he say something lewd if I'm wearing this? Might someone possibly get excited?" I dress for other women. Would they think I'm attractive? Intimidating? Smart? Chic? If I wanted to dress to attract attention from men, I'd walk around in a bikini top and shorts. But I don't.

2) Just because women wear revealing clothing doesn't mean they're inviting you to look. I lost 20 pounds and bought myself a bikini, because I felt good about my body again. I regained so much self-confidence just by owning it, and that I was no longer embarrassed or felt fat walking around in one. That doesn't mean I wear it just to attract attention, or in the hopes that guys compliment me. I wouldn't take a compliment seriously if I was wearing a bikini anyway - I know my boobs are all you were looking at.

Maybe I wear makeup because I want to feel pretty, or I got a pimple this morning, or I have a sunburn and my skin tone is uneven. Why should it matter?

Hey lucky, can you delete these comments:

http://www.videosift.com/video/Realistic-Hollywood-Sex-Scene#comment-544912

I've already instabanned the user.

I think all you need to know is read Rand's description of sex scenes in 'Atlas Shrugged' and you can immediately know 'this person has a very fuzzy grip on reality'. Creative, yes, interesting, sometimes....accurate ? Please. It sounds nice on paper, but don't go thinking this is really a useful philosophy. It's a provoking ficiton, is all.

She writes about the sex the way I thought about sex when I was 13. I have an excuse, what's hers?

Due to a puppet sex-scene, the movie was given a NC-17 Rating by the MPAA.

The scene was edited twelve times before they received the R rating they were shooting for. Trey Parker later admitted that the scene was originally added to distract the MPAA from the rest of the film's subject matter. On Matt Stone's urging, the scene was reinstated to the "unrated" DVD.

source: imdb

craziest sex scene ever

While you do a good job pointing out some perceived flaws, am curious to find out what you would do to reverse this trend? I think alot of what you mention is actually sociological and natural in our society. What you are pushing for is as DjSunKid said an extremist stance of feminism.

While there are women who strive to be the leaders in their profession and achieve something for themselves, there is a large segment of the female population that is quite alright with fitting in the stereotype of being female, of dressing up, of being sexy, of being chased, screeching when they see a mouse and looking for a big strong man. There is a entire industry centered around this. This is a standard that has been psychologically upheld by society as a whole, and women themselves. Something I see alot in the society where I live, the Arab world, very few girls try hard here because why should they? They are going to marry a Arabian Istallion and have kids and shop in Gucci and Versace. They are perfectly happy in that role.

I think some of that is social, some of it is psychological from media exposure, the barbie dolls, the princess stories and so on that build up a psychological outlook that some connect with and accept as their own and some reject.

For example look at someone like Ayn Rand.

I talked to a lot of medical students, some of them were female, most of them were heading to OBYGN and pediatrics, both deal with kids and children. They choose to do so. You will hardly find many women in the role of surgeon for example. Is this discrimination?

Back in University I had a chance to befriend a woman in her 50s who was doing adult education, she looked and acted alot like a man. Probing her previous profession she told me she was a construction foreman. She explained that for co workers and clients to take her seriously she had to adopt a hard exterior, or else no one would have obeyed her as a boss or took her seriously managerially. But she had no quams about this, she said certain businesses require male standpoint, not to mean the sex but the qualities, hard, aggressive and stubborn.

Look at how Hillary Clinton tried to meld her campaign, did it pay for her to play on her female side? did it pay for her to become more manly? Then look at someone like Margaret Thatcher. She was asexual as far as am concerned in her politics.

The equality of sexes has been reached, and there has been large progress since the 1800s and the suffrage movement. Women have the right to vote, work, enter politics, and professional occupations. There is still inequality when it comes to pay scale but I believe this is balancing out now in the world economy because administration and business is gender neutral most of the time. Results are far more important.

But does it mean the higher echelons of power are male dominated? Not at all. Germany, Bangladesh, US and many other nations have females who reached high levels of power. There is an abundance of strong female role models.

With regards to the comments on this website, this is the internet the demographic of this website is in the 18-25 range most are students, many are lonely introverted types. Most are male, some are here before or after being to a porn site. This goes a long way to describe the "Omfg shes hot" type of comments.

With regards to cinema and the like, its business. Its marketing and demographics, one shouldn't read too much into it.

The problem Hollywood has with creating female heroes is that they work on base levels so they push a hard women, which is psychologically constructed in such a way as being Bitchy. This is frankly because people in Hollywood think on those levels, they never deal in complicated characters. They need standardized themes, of conflict, and love and very often a strange sex scene where you didn't expect one.

Take the example of Lara Croft that was made into two films. The video game portrayed her as a smart intelligent royal who did tomb raids. Instead of vividly exploring this, by way of Batman orgins where she say fell into a cave and explored and developed into a tom boy and found a ancient dagger or something, they instead went simply with telling the audience that she is that way because her daddy was like that. Because Hollywood producers are idiots and they are desperately trying to connect and hit that 15-20 year demographic that needs to see a tit.

Every time I read that I LOL. Why isn't anyone else upvoting your comment? Oh wait; that's right. You are biologically not funny. Except to me, I guess. I suppose that makes me biologically damaged too.

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"Did you eat onions?" Where was that?

Ah, pity finds a home in the Internet age.

>> ^kronosposeidon:
The only part I could relate to was jerking off on the towel.