gobble gobble

A tad oversimplified imo. Here in Switzerland we gobble just as much Hollywood as Americans do, but when stuff like that happens in school a) the teachers are on the kids back in a matter of seconds b) the kid goes to court (if found guilty: criminal record and fines to pay, not jail time).

I think the first part of your response is closer to the point: it's a culture of tolerating homophobia (and other forms of hate/violence towards the Other) as "freedom of speech/religion". At least that's how it seems seen from this side of the pond.

>> ^rougy:

It's our culture. It's Hollywood. A peaceful rectification doesn't sell tickets.

Because Pandas are pandas, not some fantasy creature. It was all well and good when it was just a little off-shoot in Warcraft 3, and hell, they could even have an homage in WoW, whatever, it's all good. But to put it so front and center, makes the whole thing silly to me. At least Draenei were something entirely different.

I seem to be having the complete opposite reaction than you - I can't understand how people can take it seriously.

I will give the expansion this, though, mechanics-wise it looks to be a big improvement.
>> ^Sarzy:

In what way is this sillier, or more out of character for WoW, than space goats?
>> ^gwiz665:
I like wow in general. I played the damn thi, ng for 2500+ hours, but while they have had many silly elements mixed in with their more "high fantasy", this puts the silly front and c, enter.
I think this is way sillier than anything they've done before, partly because it's so "centered" in view. Have small references and general sillyness in the outskirts of the game is just fine, but dammit, wow was a perfectly good game, but now it's gone silly!
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In what way is this sillier, or more out of character for WoW, than space goats?
>> ^gwiz665:

I like wow in general. I played the damn thi, ng for 2500+ hours, but while they have had many silly elements mixed in with their more "high fantasy", this puts the silly front and c, enter.
I think this is way sillier than anything they've done before, partly because it's so "centered" in view. Have small references and general sillyness in the outskirts of the game is just fine, but dammit, wow was a perfectly good game, but now it's gone silly!
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I like wow in general. I played the damn thing for 2500+ hours, but while they have had many silly elements mixed in with their more "high fantasy", this puts the silly front and center.

I think this is way sillier than anything they've done before, partly because it's so "centered" in view. Have small references and general sillyness in the outskirts of the game is just fine, but dammit, wow was a perfectly good game, but now it's gone silly!

>> ^xxovercastxx:

>> ^Sarzy:
You people are all nuts. Maybe it's my general interest in Asian culture speaking, but this looks pretty awesome to me. I honestly do not get why everyone is reacting like this is the worst thing since Jar Jar Binks. Someone seriously needs to explain that to me. What looks so bad about this?

Since you asked...
Since launch, WoW has been a remarkably shallow game. It's success is attributable to oooh, shiny!, furry culture and, most importantly, people's tendencies to gambling addiction. The WoW team is kinda infamous for not coming up with any new or interesting ideas.
So when they suddenly whip out a new expansion that's based on an April fools prank by one of their artists from 6 or so years ago, yeah, it seems especially cheap. No matter... the furries will gobble this up and the money will continue to roll in.


Well sure, I mean, I can understand why some people dislike WoW in general. And of course those people aren't going to like this, because ultimately it's more of the same.

What I'm asking is why people who are actually fans of WoW are reacting so vehemently to this.

>> ^Sarzy:

You people are all nuts. Maybe it's my general interest in Asian culture speaking, but this looks pretty awesome to me. I honestly do not get why everyone is reacting like this is the worst thing since Jar Jar Binks. Someone seriously needs to explain that to me. What looks so bad about this?


Since you asked...

Since launch, WoW has been a remarkably shallow game. It's success is attributable to oooh, shiny!, furry culture and, most importantly, people's tendencies to gambling addiction. The WoW team is kinda infamous for not coming up with any new or interesting ideas.

So when they suddenly whip out a new expansion that's based on an April fools prank by one of their artists from 6 or so years ago, yeah, it seems especially cheap. No matter... the furries will gobble this up and the money will continue to roll in.

Thank you for the promote!

In reply to this comment by legacy0100:
I did not hear a single 'gobble'.

Mind has been blown.

*promote

Gobble Gobble!

*promote!

Here in Los Angeles I'm currently paying ~$60 for 6mbps theoretical, less than 2mbps for all practical uses.

So yeah, UK still has us beat no matter how you slice it.

And dag, we're blaming the government for failing to regulate properly to prevent monopoly/duopoly. The same thing is happening with cell-phone service, where AT&T and Verizon are steadily gobbling up the other services, and eventually flat-rate usage-capped cell service will be near $100 per month. Well, that's my prediction anyway.

The actual problem is the ability and willingness of the telecoms to sue to keep competition away. Owning all the pipes, while it may be perceived as a monopoly and obstruction to competition, does not satisfactorily explain the problem. I say this because in Germany all of the the pipes are owned by Deutsche Telecom, but it is government regulations that allow for competition. As a result, internet is cheaper and faster as pointed out by TheGenk. Go ahead, own the pipes, but allow for fair use of them and lease them to anyone willing to pay, and the problem will not be so acute.


>> ^dag:

I already posted this to BF's Facebook - but this is where the action is - my selected comments:
There's no chance for competition when the massive telecom corporations own all the pipes into the home and sue to prevent any further competition. (See most muni-broadband projects) http://arstechnica.com/tech-
policy/news/2010/11/the-price-of-muni-broadband-eternal-war-with-time-warner-cable.ars
Read the above article and tell me again how if only the free market was left unfettered we'd have competition in broadband. What a load of bull. The major controlling corporations have no interest in competition.
How is it government's fault? The big telcos gobbled up the little Baby Bells with no regulation from the FTC, hogging all the infrastructure and lobbying / suing any organization that challenged their primacy. How do you blame the government for this?


>> ^TheGenk:

>> ^marinara:
paying $60 per month for 768 kilobits here in the USA.

Outch!
For 30€ you get 100mbit internet and telephone flatrate here in Germany, time to move

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I already posted this to BF's Facebook - but this is where the action is - my selected comments:

There's no chance for competition when the massive telecom corporations own all the pipes into the home and sue to prevent any further competition. (See most muni-broadband projects) http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2010/11/the-price-of-muni-broadband-eternal-war-with-time-warner-cable.ars

Read the above article and tell me again how if only the free market was left unfettered we'd have competition in broadband. What a load of bull. The major controlling corporations have no interest in competition.

How is it government's fault? The big telcos gobbled up the little Baby Bells with no regulation from the FTC, hogging all the infrastructure and lobbying / suing any organization that challenged their primacy. How do you blame the government for this?

Don't these dummies know fairness wealth redistribution at gunpoint takes time?

Your change has been gobbled up by artificially high gas prices and a thugverment that loves inflation.

Punka$$ Manning is either guilty and deserves death for treason, or he's a fking fool who--much like Michael Jackson--willingly placed himself in a situation where the perception is he's guilty.

Animals, when I first read this reply, I did not know who wrote it. When I read your name, I smiled. Thank you Animals, not just for the apology, but for the insight of how a good man's mind can work when not blinded by the Blizzard-Of-Hate (Or, less that Blizzard, blinded by the rhetoric of his own mind.) For the record, I used to be an unequalled troll. I was God back then, and no one was allowed to have 'silly' ideas outside what 'should be,' but I did have one flaw. I looked to myself and asked questions. And I did not like my own answers.

As to you being immutable--it is true that I assumed you would not readily change

To the well-answered points you made;

Even if this video is a parody, some religious evangy would gobble this response up and spew it back out. But they would probably mean "inspired the bible", and yet still the sift would pound away for a simple mistake of words-versus-meaning. On a side note, I have heard far worse than this video's content from godly men--and it was stated in seriousness. I still cringe...

You bring up the multiple levels of feelings on this issue... To that I say and ask--it is factually true what you say, but when so many tiers/levels are calculated, doesn't the entire tier system become useless? (He is middle class making 40,000$. He is 'above middle class, making 40,005$, and so forth and so on.)

I tier this argument into three simple groups, Those that Believe, Those that Do Not, and Those who Couldn't Care Less. I fall into the Care Less. I know that list is subjective, and probably wrong of me, but I do it simply for simplicity.

Onto control--every nation, country, culture, etc. of humanity has created some form of control. Whether norms, government, religion, taboos, implied demands--or something societal, like commercialism--there has not been a gathering of man that has not exerted control. I am not saying control is evil, mind you--just necessary. In fact, when man is left untouched by any which way by another man (I.e. abandoned from birth, and never in human contact,) he becomes feral, and nothing smarter than an animal.

The control points I bring up are cheap for one reason--it just is easy to say and give examples. Kind of like 'humans need food.' So it is simple of me to say, and offers little but I feel it needs said.

Again, thank you fro proving me wrong.

>> ^AnimalsForCrackers:

Okay, give dummy lady a break. She meant to say "Who inspired the bible" but put foot in mouth.

I agree with what you are saying, particularly the part about Fox accidentally admitting they have chosen sides, but I think you are misunderstanding what Jon said. He didn't deny that the violent political rhetoric may have had some part in this. To me it seemed that he was saying it is tempting to draw a "straight line" between the two things, but we need to remember that no matter how much our gut tells us it is so, we don't have evidence to assign blame for the shootings to anyone but the crazy PoS shooter.

>> ^JiggaJonson:

I think he's wrong about drawing a line of causation.
-=Hypothetical analogy incoming=-
Assume we've got a set of teenage girls,
Girl A at school dislikes Girl B
Girl A starts spreading rumors about Girl B
Girl C is emotionally and mentally unstable
Girl A randomly comes into contact with Girl C and passes along said rumors
Girl C confronts Girl B about the rumors and a fight breaks out because, again, Girl C is unstable
There was no way for Girl A to know that Girl C would follow through in the way she did. Regardless, Girl A started a series of events that eventually led to Girl B getting beat up.
Ok, try the same thing with Fox pundits who are basically promoting slanted and ethically unsound journalism (aka LIES).
Fox = Girl A
Whoever is in their cross-hairs (pun intended) = Girl B
Random Crazies = Girl C
Now before anyone on the right gets on my case about this analogy, consider this: The CEO of Fox announced he wanted his pundits to quote "Tone down the rhetoric and hope the other side does too." How can an objective news organization have "a side?" It can't.
What we really REALLY need is good, honest, journalism. The problem is people dont know how to recognize what credible journalism is, and fear usually trumps intellect so the emotional hoopla that Fox jams down people's throats is gobbled up like the tripe it is.