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chicchorea (Member Profile)

quantumushroom says...

Awesome poem, my man.

Keep up the good fight!

QM

chicchorea said:

...some worthy words offered six years ago by a wise man....

I hope you do not mind me posting them here for others, wise or...

otherwise....


I AM AN AMERICAN

by D. Ault

I owe you no apologies,
Nor will I accept those apologies made for me by others.

If you dislike me - you dislike me not for what I am,
But what you are not.
By my own sweat, I have created a lifestyle which I desire for all men.

To the world, I have shared my wealth and given my blood,
Not because of obligation- but of my free will.
I have fed the hungry of the world.
Many have bit my hand; I used the other hand.

I defeated my enemies in battle,
Then pulled them up from the ashes of defeat.
Once strong, they again attacked,
I turned the other cheek.

Though I am strong,
I have never used my strength to rule others.
But do not misjudge me,
I will not allow the fear of my own strength
To become my weakness.

If you wish to rise, I will give you a helping hand.
But by the grace of God,
And I'll first be dammed,
If I'll let you drag me down
So that we may be equal.

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quantumushroom says...

CHEERS!

In reply to this comment by Reefie:
I should've added a after my comment, reckon by now people on both sides of the pond are used to sparring over spelling differences and treat it more as a tongue in cheek sport

In reply to this comment by quantumushroom:
I meant no offense and was joking.

Besides, everyone knows the favorite spelling of favourite is favouЯite.

In reply to this comment by Reefie:
@quantumushroom Those of us from the British Isles tend to spell words correctly because we've been using this language a hell of a lot longer than residents of other countries around the world. Coincidentally did you know that the English language originated in England? Yes I know, how bizarre!

Reefie (Member Profile)

quantumushroom says...

I meant no offense and was joking.

Besides, everyone knows the favorite spelling of favourite is favouЯite.

In reply to this comment by Reefie:
@quantumushroom Those of us from the British Isles tend to spell words correctly because we've been using this language a hell of a lot longer than residents of other countries around the world. Coincidentally did you know that the English language originated in England? Yes I know, how bizarre!

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quantumushroom says...

I haven't read the latest post in detail yet but will respond to it soon.

I often forget in the 'heat of the moment' that everyone's opinions and conclusions stems from their experience. As Abe Lincoln might say, "Were I you I would feel exactly as you do."

There was a time I was more liberal and would've felt the same way you do about many of these issues.

Ultimately I can only offer my viewpoint based on my information and experience. Consider that people can and do change. In 5 or 10 years your political views may completely change, mine as well.

Keep up the good work. You're right to challenge the 'old ways'.

More later.

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quantumushroom says...

Your post is peppered with so many logical fallacies that I don't want to validate it as an argument.

It's a fine rant, neither proving nor disproving a God-Force.

I WOULD however like to point out that most of the post makes little sense unless you make huge assumptions about a variety of different topics.

Mayhaps. Faith and reason remain polite opponents, but unfortunately for some, people are not logical or reasonable most of the time.

We can always fall back on what Napoleon said about religion: it has kept the poor from murdering the rich.

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Your post is peppered with so many logical fallacies that I don't want to validate it as an argument. I WOULD however like to point out that most of the post makes little sense unless you make huge assumptions about a variety of different topics.


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People are saying it more now, and you're seeing it more
now, because they're just rallying against the stigma of
saying it at all. People are saying it loud and proud because
they don't want it to be considered a BAD thing anymore.


By itself, atheism is not a bad thing. But since the human
heart is infinitely deceptive, atheism solves nothing either.
Religious superstition is replaced by moral relativism and
"rationality" that is masterful at hiding its own emotional
drives. You're in the same boat as everyone else.

I don't think beings who cannot see germs or x-rays with their
plain eyes or past the 13 billion light year "edge" of the
universe with technology have any business announcing with certainty that,
"There is no God." My opinion.

Atheists remain a tiny minority and their bases for
eliminating all traces of religion from American society are
plainly wrong. Whether you accept it or not, religion has
always been a vital force in countries' historical DNA, usually with a surplus of goodness over evil.

As an atheist you must accept that all actions have no bad consequences except when discovered by others.

As an atheist you must accept that Hitler and Mother Teresa
both ended up in a void of nothing.

I don't believe "the gods" condemn anyone for being an atheist
but I do believe all are subject to laws of karma. Again, an
opinion.

Above all, I don't think atheists are necessarily happier than anyone
else. That's probably why there's never been any kind of mass "conversion" to unbelief, except at gunpoint by evil governments.

swampgirl (Member Profile)

quantumushroom says...

You guys are full of it. Now how was this inappropriate? He has a different political view than most here..so what? He's not ad hom attacking anyone.

Dive bombing QM all the time is lame. Give a good argument for his comments, not downvotes.

::off soapbox::


I appreciate your sticking up for me. It's beyond sweet, considering you and I probably disagree on most political issues.

I accept my "role" in the community and have had some well-thought-out arguments with other sifters ...they appear at my profile from time to time.

Thanks again.

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