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@<a href="http://videosift.com/member/RadHazG" title="member since July 4th, 2007" class="profilelink">RadHazG</a>: First, pointing out that they called the planet a "star" does not change the fact that the dot of light in the sky was Venus. Second, your argument is addressing a point which I already admitted was a misunderstanding of Mcboinkens's original comment. Third, lucifer means "light-bearer", not "morning star", so your argument would fall apart even if it were relevant. "Morning Star" is an English creation. @<a href="http://videosift.com/member/Mcboinkens" title="member since July 24th, 2009" class="profilelink">Mcboinkens</a>: "It doesn't mention the planet Lucifer in the Bible, only the fallen angel." ... "Right, neither time does it refer to Satan." 2 Peter 1:19 sounds to me like they are, at the very least, using the planet's name metaphorically. Even if I'm wrong about that, it's clearly not a reference to Satan like you originally claimed. In Isaiah it's clearly metaphorical as the King sought to rise higher than God only to fail and fall, the same way Venus rises low in the sky in the morning but then sets without ever climbing very high.

There is a very important fact underlying this entire argument about Venus that you seem to be missing. Mentioning a bright point of light in a Bible verse is not the same thing as mentioning a planet in a Bible verse. The Peter verse is not mentioning anything other than a bright source rising in your heart. Not at all a reference to even anything astronomical, so that's not worth mentioning anymore. The Isaiah passage could be referring to anything in the sky, or even anything at all quite frankly. It could be talking about the moon, or the sun, or any other star, or planet they thought was a star. Furthermore, that metaphor is complete trash, because if it was referring to Venus, it would be completely wrong, as Venus travels across the entire sky, just like any other planet. There are nights where Venus is very high into the sky, so I don't even know what you are talking about. There is no use arguing about it though, the Bible is written and won't change. The only way I can even read the Bible anymore is purely as book of morals and the story of Christ, leaving out just about every other detail. Like I said earlier, it just does not make any sense that such obvious(to the creator of the universe) things would be left out. It just makes it seem like average human beings wrote it on their own time. -->

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