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a message to all neocons who booed ron paul

JiggaJonson says...

I'm with @quantumushroom on this one. If you're going to be so bold as to say "look at the world through the eyes of truth," and then make me watch a bunch of horrific clips set in a kitsch way to "What a Wonderful World" you need to be as and frank as you can be.

Part of that includes avoiding over-generalization that will distort fact.

The World Is Saved

shinyblurry says...

Well I'm glad it all worked out for you..I overdid it and spent a shameful amount of time in front of a screen either on the internet or playing video games. I had a life, mind you, but it was definitely an obsession which didn't bear much fruit.

>> ^ponceleon:
Love it, went from begging to top 15.
As for Shiny, meh.
I've led a very balanced life and really appreciate both the time I spent doing all the other hobbies I have as well as the time exploring the wonderful worlds that were created by amazingly talented people. The experience of playing Portal 2, Half-life 2, Planescape: Torment, the Ultima Series back on the Apple II and countless others are ones that I see as "productive" as reading a book or watching a movie. This doesn't even take into accounts social games which allow you to share the experience with others. Your dismissal of the genre is just shallow.

The World Is Saved

ponceleon says...

Love it, went from begging to top 15.

As for Shiny, meh.

I've led a very balanced life and really appreciate both the time I spent doing all the other hobbies I have as well as the time exploring the wonderful worlds that were created by amazingly talented people. The experience of playing Portal 2, Half-life 2, Planescape: Torment, the Ultima Series back on the Apple II and countless others are ones that I see as "productive" as reading a book or watching a movie. This doesn't even take into accounts social games which allow you to share the experience with others. Your dismissal of the genre is just shallow.

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Japanses Guy Doing Louis Armstrong

Japanses Guy Doing Louis Armstrong

Japanses Guy Doing Louis Armstrong

Some guy engineers his own 9/11 experiments

kceaton1 says...

>> ^Friesian:

One thing that stuck in my craw about this was his brief mention of how the collapse looked like a controlled demolition, and how he then compared the WTC collapse to an actual controlled demolition.
With my admittedly lacking knowledge, controlled demolitions have explosives throughout the whole building, including the lower floors. When they push the plunger for the controlled demolotion, you can see the explosions on each floor (including the lower floors) as the building starts to come down.
If this was a controlled demolition, disguised with the smoke and mirrors of an aircraft ramming into the side, why did we see no molten steel, smoke or other craziness coming out of the ground or first floor? Or any of the lower floors? AND from the bottom up (as I believe it is done in controlled demolition)?
Finally, even if all it would have taken to collapse the WTC in a manner which made it look like a controlled demolition is some thermite/thermate on the 50th odd floor (sorry, I forget exactly which floor the aircraft hit), isn't that a bit of a gamble on the part of the people behind the "conspiracy"? I mean, you need a pilot who is able to fly a passenger jet directly into the correct floor of a building. To me that sounds like a tough thing to do, hitting a building in exactly the right place while travelling at high speed. A slight cock-up from the pilot and you'd have plane explosion and damage in one place, and then 25 floors below you'd be able to see all this molten steel from the thermite/thermate? Bit of a give away if you ask me.
I dunno - if you're going to go to all these lengths to have a pretense to invade somewhere, surely you'd rely on a plan that didn't have a large chance to be immediately exposed? Maybe I've been ruined by Hollywood's crazy and grandiose schemes, but I'd like to think that the "bad guys" would come up with a better, and more reliable, plan than this?
edit: I feel I should mention that I do think it's odd how the WTC towers collapsed. Without going into the wonderful world of science, it just seems odd that any building hit that high up would collapse straight down—probably a throw-back to my childhood days of building towers with my play bricks and then throwing my toys at it. However, I just can't bring myself to accept that this was a controlled explosion. It just doesn't seem to add up to me, much in the same way that the actual collapse doesn't add up. My internal jury is still out on this one.


The buildings simply obeyed Newtonian mechanics. First you have inertia. It takes A HUGE FORCE with that much mass in play to make it go in any direction. But, guess what, nature is already forcing it to go in one direction--and it's winning. That direction is of course down, due to gravity. An object in motion tends to stay in motion, the building is ALREADY going down, that's why it has to be supported. When it began to pancake the mass continued in it's plane of reference and fell straight down. The structure below was meant to hold it up, but in a pancake scenario the side walls and supports are presented with lateral forces far higher (due to the mass and gravity) than designed to mitigate. With the ONE thing that was meant to hold up the building useless it simply continued all the way down.

Interestingly, the building hit the furthest down collapsed first (even though it was hit last). This lends more credence to gravity being the main player. Massive objects like that do not change direction easily; trust me it's the movies or you're watching very weak structures collapse. If a plane impact barely made it wobble, I doubt you could move it sideways unless you literally designed it to collapse that way. Again, inertia. Just think what it's like trying to push a train off a track. Now imagine pushing a building off a track. Won't happen unless it's designed to.

Some guy engineers his own 9/11 experiments

Friesian says...

One thing that stuck in my craw about this was his brief mention of how the collapse looked like a controlled demolition, and how he then compared the WTC collapse to an actual controlled demolition.

With my admittedly lacking knowledge, controlled demolitions have explosives throughout the whole building, including the lower floors. When they push the plunger for the controlled demolotion, you can see the explosions on each floor (including the lower floors) as the building starts to come down.

If this was a controlled demolition, disguised with the smoke and mirrors of an aircraft ramming into the side, why did we see no molten steel, smoke or other craziness coming out of the ground or first floor? Or any of the lower floors? AND from the bottom up (as I believe it is done in controlled demolition)?

Finally, even if all it would have taken to collapse the WTC in a manner which made it look like a controlled demolition is some thermite/thermate on the 50th odd floor (sorry, I forget exactly which floor the aircraft hit), isn't that a bit of a gamble on the part of the people behind the "conspiracy"? I mean, you need a pilot who is able to fly a passenger jet directly into the correct floor of a building. To me that sounds like a tough thing to do, hitting a building in exactly the right place while travelling at high speed. A slight cock-up from the pilot and you'd have plane explosion and damage in one place, and then 25 floors below you'd be able to see all this molten steel from the thermite/thermate? Bit of a give away if you ask me.

I dunno - if you're going to go to all these lengths to have a pretense to invade somewhere, surely you'd rely on a plan that didn't have a large chance to be immediately exposed? Maybe I've been ruined by Hollywood's crazy and grandiose schemes, but I'd like to think that the "bad guys" would come up with a better, and more reliable, plan than this?

edit: I feel I should mention that I do think it's odd how the WTC towers collapsed. Without going into the wonderful world of science, it just seems odd that any building hit that high up would collapse straight down—probably a throw-back to my childhood days of building towers with my play bricks and then throwing my toys at it. However, I just can't bring myself to accept that this was a controlled explosion. It just doesn't seem to add up to me, much in the same way that the actual collapse doesn't add up. My internal jury is still out on this one.

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Sh*t is going down in Athens

shuac says...

If there's a clip more deserving of PE's "Fight the Power," I'd like to see it.

Or, if you're into counter-programming...Louie Armstrong's "It's a Wonderful World," that might be cooler.

Ron Paul, Now And Then (Politics Talk Post)

BicycleRepairMan says...

Ron Paul has always been exactly this crazy, he has a 100% consistent voting record saying he doesnt really want the government involved in anything. Thats fair enough, its his opinion. The problem now is that the entire vocal faction of the GOP has turned into the tea party, which is basically an uninformed, rabid, hypocritical, unintelligent version of Ron Pauls vision.

The problem with libertarianism like the one Ron Paul advocates is that it sounds good in a slogan, and in theory "I don't want no gov'ment up in my business!", but really, its a crazy idea. If you want a society without any goverment "interference" in your life, pack your shit an move to The Democratic Republic of Congo, thats a 100% libertarian right there. You can do whatever the fuck you want, everything is private market, including the justice system, the army,hospitals, schools and people themselves. All you need is to pay for it. Its Ron Pauls utopia. No stinking officials anywhere messing up your shit. No paperwork or anything, just free market all the way. In many ways, its exactly like the wonderful world of the Founding Fathers. You know, before they created the government and all that..

Government sucks. Hell, Democracy, in many ways, sucks. But its the only thing we've got, so we need to work with it.

Anti-Rock Star

kronosposeidon says...

^Could be. What a creepy, gangly fucker. Yet at one time he was banging this:



What a wonderful world.

Louis Armstrong-What A Wonderful World(Death Metal Version)

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