Holy crap, that's probably the same reason why I like early smashing pumpkins stuff so much. corgan and chamberlain were absolute virtuosos and getting your hands on a concert bootleg from before 2000 was an actual musical find. I got a few and those gigs were so diverse.
Anyone know of other bands with similar chemistry and ability?

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My dad is a regular listener to NPR, and they had a story about this probably ~10 years ago. The story was in large part inspired by a CD where piano virtuosos played famous pieces in the alternate tempered tunings that were (most likely) used by the composers of the songs. Many did NOT use even tempering, because it didn't exist yet.

For example, it had some Bach and other Baroque pieces played on a "well tempered" piano, and some older stuff (can't remember the composer) played on a piano with Pythagorean tempering, which prioritizes *perfect* fifths at the expense of some of the other intervals.

My dad bought the CD after hearing the story. It was really interesting to listen to because of the way that the intervals favored by the alternate temperings really rang true, but ears used to modern equal tempering made everything *else* sound a little out-of-whack dissonant.

I'll have to see if I can find that story/CD.

Vai: I thought the same thing. Most people don't know him though. He's a virtuoso, but not a pop-culture icon for his music (unfortunately). A good example being that I grew up with all of this music, and while I know the name of David Gillmour, even I would have to go look him up to remind myself of his work.

*promote all things Moog and the lovely and talented Miss Rachel Flowers
http://www.synthtopia.com/content/2012/03/08/prog-virtuoso-rachel-flowers-wails-on-keith-emersons-moog-modular-synthesizer/

>> ^blingaway:

No room for artist interpretation?
The thing with down-picking is it limits the speed at which one can play and it's very fatiguing in the long run. It's easier for a beginner to down-pick, and it looks cool, but it's a bad habit to cultivate if one wants to develop real technical proficiency.
Don't get me wrong, good alternate picking is important, but you seem to think that people down-pick because it's easier than alternate picking. It's actually not, especially if you want to play a fast song. Down-picking is a valid technique that produces a distinctly different sound than alternate picking. It's especially common in metal and punk. Master of Puppets by Metallica is a really good example of this. Almost the entire rhythm section of the song is down picked. Try playing along to it one day (or worse, a live version where it's even faster). I guarantee your picking forearm will ache by the time you get to the acoustic bit!

As for artist interpretation, if you don't like that kinda music, or even the down picking sound, that's fine, but the people doing it are not doing through lack of technical proficiency.
Full disclosure: I've been playing guitar for nearly 20 years. I don't claim to be a virtuoso, but I started out playing a lot of metal, so I know this stuff.

>> ^dystopianfuturetoday:

Colbert is a virtuoso.


I'm sure hes had sex at least one!

Colbert is a virtuoso.

>> ^mentality:

>> ^Duckman33:
>> ^rottenseed:
>> ^owatadorkiam:
no processing on the vocals....she seems to still hit all the right notes...I'm sorry, but it doesn't sound that bad.

I didn't know the term "tone-deaf" described a real thing...but it does. And you suffer from it.

owatadorkiam is not tone deaf. I'm a vocalist (yes I was paid to do it for a living at one time in my life) and sorry to say I didn't hear any sour notes. Granted she's no virtuoso, but she's not singing off key at all. What I expected to hear was horribly out of tune singing and heard nothing of the sort. And yes, I really wanted to hear her choke.


Uh are you serious? It's not that bad overall, but she definitely falls a tad flat on quite a few notes.


Yes I'm serious. Look I'm not the only one saying she is singing on key. Why is everyone singling me out to question? She didn't sound as bad as I expected, why is it so hard for everyone to understand that?

>> ^Duckman33:

>> ^rottenseed:
>> ^owatadorkiam:
no processing on the vocals....she seems to still hit all the right notes...I'm sorry, but it doesn't sound that bad.

I didn't know the term "tone-deaf" described a real thing...but it does. And you suffer from it.

owatadorkiam is not tone deaf. I'm a vocalist (yes I was paid to do it for a living at one time in my life) and sorry to say I didn't hear any sour notes. Granted she's no virtuoso, but she's not singing off key at all. What I expected to hear was horribly out of tune singing and heard nothing of the sort. And yes, I really wanted to hear her choke.



Uh are you serious? It's not that bad overall, but she definitely falls a tad flat on quite a few notes.