When should you shoot a cop?
Answer: any time a cop threatens your life or that of your family.
You can always morally use actual self defense to excuse homicide. Take it to a jury trial, prove they threatened you or your family, and most likely you'll not be convicted. I sure wouldn't convict someone who shot an armed intruder in their own home, no matter what color the intruder's uniform was.
I would prefer life in prison to having my family murdered, but that's just, like, my opinion, man.

EDIT: Expecting a uniform measured response from 100% of a terrorized, decimated, displaced people who've lived a living hell for years, some growing up in it, to a plan that seems to remove any hope of escape to a place where they might live a normal life, an escape they've worked towards for years at great expense and hardship, and in some cases escaping certain death due to helping America....no culture or people on earth are going to live up to that. American's certainly don't. We go off half cocked over 1% of that hardship and fly planes into federal buildings.

...Says the person advocating blaming and ruining the lives of innocent people for the acts of those that attacked and displaced them. Destroying the lives of random innocent people will never make the situation better, it will create more hatred for the US. That's the behavior I'd expect from a racist or Nazi because they're seeing everyone with a certain demographic as terroristic. We don't need more people with intolerant and inflexible attitudes.

I think it's the racism and xenophobia they already had coupled with a sudden influx of "others" that are now in their daily lives that turns them to extremism, because they've been primed to do so by the far right. If it was only a matter of "my feels got hurt" and nothing else, we wouldn't have international outrage at our horribly thought out, disastrously implemented, clearly racially and theologically motivated travel ban, but it hurts far more than feelings, it will kill some people.

HA!!!! All those groups have been labeled terrorists at one time, and all of them have committed terroristic acts. Every. Single. One. You just pulled a Bob and used an example that totally destroys your point.

Read some history, Christian extremism puts Islamic extremism to shame.

Goobacks: "a hairless, uniform mix of all races" with the same skin color, while their language is a guttural mixture of all world languages.
Also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_of_the_future

If that's the case, that he's off duty, isn't this a much more serious crime? Improperly using the cop car, lights and siren, badge, weaponry, and authority of his position to pretend to be an officer preforming his duties when he's really harassing and pranking someone as a private citizen? That should definitely be a felony.

Actually, no. He has his badge displayed prominently, and his cuffs, pepper spray, and gun on his belt. He may be off duty, true, but there's nothing about his uniform that would indicate that. Not all officers wear blues. I've seen many officers on duty wearing similar clothing and gear.

No matter what, it's an abuse of his power and equipment for his own personal amusement.

Just my .02 since I'm in this field of work.

He is most likely off duty. Looking at his uniform (he isn't wearing one) and the fact he has no gear on his duty belt tells me this was done off hours. Another possibility is this was done by a training facility / academy where most training Officers/Deputies wear the polo style shirt / khakis and do not wear much gear.

Either way, more than highly likely not on duty.

Now you may all proceed to rant about all other aspects of this video.

Interesting, but anybody got any 'Why'?

I have some intuition: as the water turns to ice it's clear, but once the ice is formed, any additional cooling causes expansion, which causes internal cracks due to the space constraints from the container or the surrounding ice? Obviously frost on the surface isn't going the uniform, so his second example isn't great.

Lynch broke the Law.

18 USC §§ 202 – 209; Executive Order 12674 on Principles of Ethical Conduct as amended by EO 12731; Uniform Standards of Ethical Conduct for Employees of the Executive Branch, 5 CFR Part 2635; Department of Justice regulations, 5 CFR Part 3801; Department of Justice regulations, 28 CFR Part 45; Executive branch standards of conduct, 5 USC § 735; and, United States Department of Justice Ethics Handbook for On and Off-Duty Conduct, 14 Principles for Ethical Conduct:

“14. Employees shall endeavor to avoid any actions creating the appearance that they are violating the law or the ethical standards set forth in this part. Whether particular circumstances create an appearance that the law or these standards have been violated shall be determined from the perspective of a reasonable person with knowledge of the relevant facts.”

5 C.F.R 2635.101 (b)

“An employee shall endeavor to avoid any actions creating the appearance that the employee is violating the law or the ethical standards set forth in this part.”

5 CFR 2635.101(b)(14)

Attorney General Loretta Lynch’s meeting with Bill Clinton severely undermined the already low public confidence in her agency’s criminal investigation of Hillary Clinton.



I truly think they new they would get caught.
The real question is Why?

it seems to me one of the biggest issues is the unevenness of state laws and the ease of movement of guns. i think a uniform, federal law/requirements for gun ownership, BG checks, and collection of statistics would go a long, long way, even if there was no additional gun ban. it would also create the opportunity to maintain and adapt the law based on real information instead of intuition, which is the current method.

Something about the walk looks too uniform. I think it's CGI.

But snopes says it's real . http://www.snopes.com/giant-alligator-florida-golf/

It's amazing to me that they think people are dumb enough to believe this is real, and are doubling down with the 'follow up' video....more so that they're right to some extent, because many have been duped into believing this.

It's clearly a shaved spot on her head.... hair doesn't rip out in razor sized straight lines, hair doesn't rip out into short bangs, and hair doesn't rip out into uniformly cut 1/2" long areas.
I'm going to guess that her entire head is cropped short....about 1/2" short except in the bald spot where it's shaved...and all that long hair is just extensions loosely taped to her head. You can see that at least the entire front is cut 1/2" short if you pause it at 12sec. and you can see at least one tract of hair with it's sticker still in the 'bald' spot.
There's a reason this was posted in 240p, it makes it much easier to hide all the obvious flaws. In fact, I would say there's a likelihood that any exciting video posted in 240p or worse has a 99% likelihood of being fake. People suck, and for some reason a lot of them get off on tricking people by lying.

One of the things that struck me most about the new trailers is how close to the comics Psylocke and Apocalypse look, you can even spot Jubilee looking like she's just come from the 80's. . . which makes perfect sense since the film is set in the 80's.

The uniforms just need a rethink.

You make a good point...kind of....IMO, the media no longer employs 'reporters'. It would not surprise me in the least if NONE of the media there had looked at what had been released. EDIT:but now that we've seen what was released, it made no difference as it does NOT show any officer try to help, only officers partially out of uniform. There certainly should be footage from one of those cars that surrounded the water showing an officer TRYING to enter the water, but there isn't, because it likely didn't happen.

It is impossible to believe that cops don't dehumanize those they chase, because we've seen it all too often. It's impossible to believe that cops act properly after a chase, because we see them act improperly all the time. It's impossible to believe that cops DON'T murder citizens often and then lie about it, because we've seen it all too often. I don't think they murder any citizen they have a chance to murder, but I do think they murder many people for 'contempt of cop' because they know they'll be backed up by the entire force...which is why we can no longer trust ANY self serving statement made by police...they lie, they're trained to lie, they are trained to think it's OK for them to lie, and they are trained to support another officers lies....you can't trust a word they ever say because of that.

Yes, it is well beyond hope to think that THIS video makes a retraction proper.
The clip does not show a single person go into the water, water that had at LEAST 5-10 cameras pointed at it the entire time...yet they don't have ANY footage of ANY cop going even ankle deep....they have footage of 2 cops that took off their belts, one of which MAY be damp below the waist, or maybe not.
If I see you drowning and I take off my belt and stand around talking to my friends while you die...did I save you? Did I even try?
We have seen multiple angles of the pond with the car sinking in it, but absolutely zero footage of any cop even wading in, much less ALL the cops diving in to save the 3 girls. Every cop that didn't TRY is a murderer IMO. They have a clear legal DUTY to TRY...it's what they're paid to do.

It sounds like this department would benefit from water proof body cameras. The word of the police is less than worthless, they are professional, trained liars that lie as part of their job. I don't trust what liars say. You are free to trust admitted professional liars all you like, but I won't be following you down that rabbit hole.

Yes, we are at the point where, if cops CLAIM they did the right thing but still had terrible results as if they had NOT done the right thing, it clearly didn't happen with out proof that they did the right thing. That's what happens when you do the wrong thing so consistently, you lose the benefit of a doubt.

They are all still liars and murderers...even if what they claim, that one officer waded in and tried to save them, is true (and by no means am I saying it is), the other dozen cops sat back and did nothing but wait for death. EDIT: They could easily have made a human chain from shore to the car and saved all 3 with no 'danger' besides dirty uniforms.

Oh, thanks for this! Couldn't find it.
Yah, at at least the 31 second mark, a deputy walks by in a clearly a stripped down state.

You can't see if he's sopping wet, but you can clearly tell he's stripped his belt and other uniform stuff that would encumber him in the water.

And then later in the videos---is someone going by in their underwear?
I couldn't be sure.

Here's possibly the clip being referenced, from the sheriffs office directly. Shows two officers, both stripped down from uniform, 1 looks like they are carrying back their vest suggesting it had been stripped off. I'm not sure how much more can realistically be expected. As the Sheriff said, have we really hit the point where unless we have a video of the deputies wading into the water it clearly didn't happen? I guess it's beyond hope to see a retraction of declaring them all liars and murderers for failing to save a bunch of kids from their own stupidity.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krliEVgUQoM