Jesus Christ, this is really flaring up tempers. A trigger-happy monster/startled law enforcement officer murdered/defended himself against a lovable, harmless puppy/bloodthirsty rabid animal.

The way I see it, this guy overreacted WAAAAY too much, but he did have the right to respond to the dog. The owner comes off as overreacting too; it's always easier to see solutions in hindsight, especially if you have video footage that is slowed down. We have to think about the situation as if we have three seconds to react.

Real life is never as simple as we'd like it to be.

^NordlichReiter:
I'll let someone else tear you a new one. This makes me wish we had a mandatory military like germany. It would really open your eyes to the respect your taught to give everyone even your enemies. Go to a recruiting station for any branch and tell them you want to shoot people and that's the reason you want to join. Please do so and tell me what they say. I think you'll be surprised.

Of course, no one in his right mind (i.e. not mentally ill) would say that he likes to kill people to anyone, army recruiter or not. You'll have to revise your 12th grade pop psychology and look up "subtility", "concealment", "repressed desire" and "uncounscious desire". Man is a machine with a big and powerful nervous system (yes, that last bit means essentially "powerful brain") and it would be idiotic to think everyone is always open about their feelings to others and even to themselves, or that they even know about their true feelings, emotions or beliefs. This may go against your christian-centric "freedom of will and everything else" worldview, but science doesn't care about you or religious ideology­.

On another note, I too would like for mandatory military service, like Switzerland (they provide for a much better political and economical model than Germany at present), but obliviously for different reasons than your warmongering american ones. There is value in defending one's life and the lives of your kin (which, in my book, should a priori include every human being in the world), but essentially your right to do so stops where the right of the others to defend themselves begins. This may be a cliché, but it is a useful one nevertheless. Of course, where to draw the line in real situations is difficult, but the principle should be remembered. When you are invading a whole country with the pretense of defending yourself, in this case Afghanistan and Iraq, you have to ask yourself some big and important questions, and the answers should be as strong as your claim is: that you somehow have the right to invade someone else for your own protection as a defensive action. Now, you may think, and probably many americans do, that you have the right to bully and push around anyone else you may want to just because of the fact that you exist: that's called "survival of the fittest" thinking (or "being a dick" for short), and as game theory shows, it won't take you far in the long run.

If you can't be a dick and your freedom to defend yourself is restricted, why would you want a military, let alone a mandatory military service? Two big reasons: one, you sometimes do need to actually defends yourself against "I-have-a-bigger-dick-than-you-so-do-my-dad-and-I'll-show-you-why" type of idiots, who either don't know, don't understand or couldn't give a fuck about game theory if their lives somehow depended on it (yes, military officers know about it, but your COMMANDER-IN-FUCKING-CHIEF, the supposed equal of George Washington, has got not even a hint of the most little clue) and they are best dealt with a quick and impressive show of actual or what seems like actual force, not bombastic military parades though these can serve to frighten some kinds of idiots. Two, being in an actual conflict, even and perhaps especially on a peacekeeping mission, can sometimes have a calming effect on trigger-happy or shoot-first-ask-later kind of young men and women. This effect is of course not guaranteed since every one is different (another useful cliché, in moderation).

As an aside, a corps of able and ready young people can be useful in humanitarian situations. Military training can also provide useful skills that some might not want or be able to get elsewhere (navigation, survival, basic weapon and self-defense, etc.). If not misused, a military can be a boon, like everything else in life.

Sorry for the long posts, but even with this (or maybe because of it? The internets are not used to reading long, thoughtful and rhetoric- and logic-filled discourses, especially not this abstract) many don't get what I'm trying to say, so imagine if I just said "EXCUSE THE FUCK OUT OF ME?". That could be deviously misconstrued as rock throwing if I was former military personnel, proud of my time of duty, responding to an anti-military statement!

P.S. I never said everyone in the military is lowlife scum or that everyone is joining to protect their country. From what I said would follow that in the worst case, half of everyone would be lowlife scum, and the other half would join to defend their country (in the case of the present american army stationed in Iraq at least). Of course I do not think it is so clear-cut, that was rhetoric. But far worse and damaging rhetorically is the typically american FOX-Newsy "misunderstanding" (conscious or not) of quoting me as saying they were all lowlife, or that they were all joining to defend their country. These are statistically very improbable situations, to say the least! There are also those who join because they need money they can't get otherwise, those who want to make their daddy proud, those who want to continue a familial tradition, those who are planning their political careers, etc. But they are not the focus of this discussion since I believe they form a minority, all the more so when you look at the true, hidden motives.

Tags for this video have been changed from 'leatherface, chainsaw, massacre, laundry, laundrette' to 'leatherface, chainsaw, massacre, laundry, laundrette, trigger, happy, dom, joly' - edited by Zonbie

Yea... who are these monsters? Coming up with non lethal weapons, when bullets are so inexpensive and plentiful.

While actually shooting fewer people is awesome, we've seen from how tasers have turned out that cops get trigger-happy when they see it as having no permanent consequences. Meaning that the taser has and this heat gun will become almost the immediate go-to, before conversation.

And I'm sure it'll be used for crowd control, and such, if people try to gather and protest in non-free-speech zones.

Tags for this video have been changed from 'internet, nerds' to 'internet, nerds, Trigger Happy TV' - edited by fissionchips

Bah, no wonder the * nsfw is reserved so bronzies like me don't go trigger happy by accident.

This was so gut-bustingly funny to me that I pretty much HAD to submit it! Sorry about my delayed response to your comment, but thank you maatc, and you have impeccable taste!

In reply to this comment by maatc:
Yay! One of my favourite clips from the show!

That and where an unsuspecting pedestrian is chased back down an alley by a mob of bears and bunnys (opening scene of this sift). Oh and the Vegetable Misunderstanding of course!

Gosh there are so many.


Love it! Thanks!

Trigger Happy = instant upvote

I agree with MG's idea to make this similar to banning. If someone finds a dupe, they should mark it as dupe, which would immediately send it to SiftTalk for discussion. Then, if someone else marks it eight, dude... I mean, if someone else marks it a dupe, then BAM! it's gone. That could help keep trigger-happy goldies from kicking out a non-duplicated dupe.

Yay! One of my favourite clips from the show!

That and where an unsuspecting pedestrian is chased back down an alley by a mob of bears and bunnys (opening scene of this sift). Oh and the Vegetable Misunderstanding of course!

Gosh there are so many.


Love it! Thanks!

they could turn this into a comedy easily. all they'd need to do is shown him being thrown back on shore and add a goofy soundtrack. actually, that seems like something trigger happy tv would do.

Yeah, this died in the queue a week ago. I'll say the same thing here that I said there:
"Jump in." Hmm.. I remember gaming before it was cool to game. Command and Conquer for DOS anyone? How about Doom? Duke Nukem 3D?
And more 'recently': I remember playing Total Annihilation and being bummed that I couldn't use that awesome map because I didn't have 16 MB of RAM. Or maybe Carmen Sandiego? Oregon Trial? Those were the days.
I think the first computer game I ever played was "sopwith camel" on our Tandy 1000.

But I'm not sure that a commercial that depicts the country as trigger happy people is a smart move for a console company. More fuel for the "Video games make people violent" morons.

What a disgustingly biased and deceitful (not to mention unbelievably annoyingly edited) video this is. I trust this woman's story about as much as the local street corner raving lunatic. Check out her only other lovely video by the way, which is of soldier effigy burning as a means of war protest (and wherein the comments of said video she blithely declares her belief that all US soldiers are "baby raping pigs"). There is vastly more to this story than this nutty woman is letting on. http://www.sandypost.com/news/story.php?story_id=115654635282841200 (of course this is a story written by the "corporate owned media apologists" according to this woman so we shouldn't trust it at all. (never mind that no reason or evidence is given for the belief that the local reporting on the story is somehow inherently in corrupt collusion with a supposedly criminal police department) The officer who shot him is obviously a trigger happy incompetent pussy who should be punished for using lethal force in a situation which did not require it, but that said, the whole weird scenario appears to be a borderline/near suicide by cop incident, however bizarre.

MINK, I agree with you - the security apparatus in the west is so trigger happy right now that it's disgusting. That is a real issue. But someone who would either intentionally or stupidly antagonize them deserves no sympathy. There is no way this girl could not have understood the potential consequences of her actions. This isn't even close to the moonites debacle - that was a public display of a pop culture icon which had been performed in several other cities prior to Boston. This was a random person walking into an airport with a blinking breadboard on her chest. She's lucky she wasn't carried out in a body bag. If anything, it demonstrates at least a minimal level of restraint on the part of certain security officers. And given the wrong place and the wrong time, the right officer would not have been there, as in London.

"Jump in." Hmm.. I remember gaming before it was cool to game. Command and Conquer for DOS anyone? How about Doom? Duke Nukem 3D?
And more 'recently': I remember playing Total Annihilation and being bummed that I couldn't use that awesome map because I didn't have 16 MB of RAM.

But I'm not sure that a commercial that depicts the country as trigger happy people is a smart move for a console company. More fuel for the "Video games make people violent" morons.