>> ^dag:

Did you watch the whole thing?>> ^charliem:
Concept = concept...not legit. Ideas for what could be possible, but not even remotely applied in real world.
The finger print scanner on a touch screen display? So how the hell is it doing that?



Maybe @charliem forgot to tick the sarcasm box

>> ^dag:

Did you watch the whole thing?>> ^charliem:
Concept = concept...not legit. Ideas for what could be possible, but not even remotely applied in real world.
The finger print scanner on a touch screen display? So how the hell is it doing that?



I figured commenting on something that clearly violates the conservation of mass to be a bit of a time waster.

It's not all that unlikely, it's really only the last one that is a bit far-fetched, for now.

>> ^charliem:

The finger print scanner on a touch screen display? So how the hell is it doing that?

Comment hidden because you are ignoring dag. (show it anyway)

Did you watch the whole thing?>> ^charliem:

Concept = concept...not legit. Ideas for what could be possible, but not even remotely applied in real world.
The finger print scanner on a touch screen display? So how the hell is it doing that?

Concept = concept...not legit. Ideas for what could be possible, but not even remotely applied in real world.

The finger print scanner on a touch screen display? So how the hell is it doing that?

IF they want to spend money on elections? spend it on banning punch-style ballots so we don't have another 2000 Election situation.

I also just don't see the point of electronic voting. It would become a huge target for exploitation. Besides, if you have the scantron-style voting ballots, isn't that electronic enough? take your number 2 pencil and mark your damned ballot and let the scanner read it in. It's as simple as it needs to be.

I just don't see the benefit of having some sort of all electronic system. the more complicated it is, the more easily it can be disrupted.

Or if you MUST have a completely computerized voting system, at the very least, make it a closed system, no wireless, no transmission over the internet. electronic storage of the votes is fine, but if you transmit it over an open system, it's just going to get hacked eventually, There's no reason the results can't be sneaker-netted to where they need to go.

>> ^zeoverlord:

Or you could do the economically sane option of not having these photo Id laws in the first place since they are obviously not needed.
>> ^kurtdh:
>> ^volumptuous:
Demanding that citizens pay money to vote is unconstitutional as is stated in the 24th amendment to the constitution.
>> ^kurtdh:
I never quite got this. Can't these 20 million disenfranchised voters just pay 10 bucks or so to go get a photo ID that would allow them to vote?


So couldn't they put something in place that would allow people to get a free picture ID for voting purposes? Doesn't seem too difficult.

Um no way in hell are you sticking me inside that with the cover off sorry.
>> ^nanrod:

So why do they cover all that up. That would be so cool to see all that while you're getting scanned. Kind of like a midway ride.

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Halloween
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Shocker
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Planet Terror
Friday the 13th Part VII: The New Blood
The Thing
Alice Sweet Alice
Don't Look Now
The Town That Dreaded Sundown
Madman
The Shining
The Exorcist
Poltergeist
Child's Play
28 Days Later
Psycho
Cemetery Man
Salem's Lot
Hellraiser II: Hellbound
Bram Stoker's Dracula
Jacob's Ladder
Suspiria
Slither
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Re-Animator
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Day of the Dead
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Phantasm
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Return of the Living Dead
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Bride of Chucky
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Alien
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Rosemary's Baby
Interview with the Vampire
Let the Right One In
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Ju-On (The Grudge)
House on Haunted Hill
Hostel
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Insidious
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Black Christmas
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Fright Night
The Exorcist
Mother's Day
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The Shining
The Evil Dead
The Exorcism of Emily Rose
Chopping Mall
Braindead (Dead Alive)

I got to go with Sepacore on this one if we are talking about the ATM just suddenly starts spitting money out on the ground without being prompted to do so and there is a mad rush for the cash.
First I highly doubt they record every single serial number they put into the ATM. The bank people are paid by the hour, and banks are among, if not the, the most profitable business per dollar earned, so they wouldn't waste time counting every single serial number. They do count the total dollars in and out before that teller leaves for the day. Now there is a slim chance it can read the number as it spits it out, but I have to doubt it is doing that.
Second, as pointed out, the money is traded too fast. Let's say the ATM spit out $2000, and you got $80 in the mad rush. Odds are that money will be spent before the bank/FBI and everyone gets involved in looking over the video. Then that money is likely to have been given as change. So even in the unlikely event that the ATM has an optical scanner to read the numbers it dispenses, it would be useless as the money would have traded hands too many times by the time they put a trace on it... even if it had an RFID chip in it, it would be too late.
That all said, the video does have you. They might not know how much you took or which ones you took, but the video does have you taking some in the mad rush. They will likely eventually ask you to return what you took. So Yogi is in part right on that one...
Now. If we are are simply talking about the ATM gives out some extra money out when you do a withdraw (you withdraw $80 and it accidentally gives you $100) and don't return it, then they probably be able to tell when it malfunctioned, and will seek you out quickly.

>> ^gwiz665:

Not read it yet, but here's the report
http://www.scribd.com/doc/83402478/Ma-Raze-Best-Report


Looked at it, found the presentation to be lots of arrows pointing at things that look like printer errors, document touchups, scanner errors, crap on the document when it was scanned, or whatever else.

They apparently have like 3 different versions of it on different kinds of paper, blah blah.

Until they can take more time and explain it better, it looks like meaningless BS presented as solid proof. I'd like to think if they are going to edit up a bunch of documents, they'd at least make them all the same and not spell THE as TXE in one version. Oh and put a smiley face on the signature, because nothing says proof like a weird smiley face that looks like two pen stop marks.

Next it'll be they tested his blood and detected no American in it.
It's like midichlorians but makes you crazy over time as you drink bad moonshine and eat tainted possum.

A Scanner Darkly rates. Minority Report would have been better w/o Cruise. Next??

whomever made this video is powerless, probably will be logging into his welfare account online with a government fingerprint scanner soon

We should build a moonbase because moonbases are cool. Sometimes that's a good enough reason to do something. The government already spends lots of money on useless things, like fences around Mexico, bridges to nowhere, and x-ray scanners at airports, but those things aren't nearly as cool as a moonbase.

It's 2012, we should have had mooonbases twenty years ago. There should be orbital recreation centers by now. Scientists on the Mars research colony (that we should have) should be busy working out how we're gonna get to Alpha Centauri. And flying cars, dammit.

>> ^Drachen_Jager:

>> ^mxxcon:
>> ^Drachen_Jager:
No scanner would see a program in an image, realize it's an executable and execute the program all without the user's knowledge.
It's barely possible that you could transfer a workable program that way through fractals, and the people on the other end would have to spend weeks or months decoding the program before they could make it run IF they could figure out what it was in the first place.
pattern might be constructed in such a way that when scanned it can confuse any piece of software in the chain to cause a buffer overrun, at which point they could craft the following data to actually be executable and contain malware payload.
This is kinda what happened in a few instances of MP3-based viruses. MP3 file's metadata was malformed in such a way that it would crash the player and execute trojan payload that was embedded in that MP3 file.
Look up information about MP3Concept(MP3Virus.Gen)
There was another incident that involved MP3 file played in Winamp player. I can't find link about it now.
So while realistically unlikely, it's possible.

The main difference there being that the MP3 was a digital file which had been manipulated, not a sound recording. The file was corrupted in a very clever way. In the show the bone 'picture' was taken by the forensics team. They did not bring in a file the guy had created, they took a photograph. You can't insert corrupted data, because the data is coming from the camera they own.
you've never had a legitimate program crash while working with a legitimate file? this is when malware gets to do its stuff.

>> ^mxxcon:

>> ^Drachen_Jager:
No scanner would see a program in an image, realize it's an executable and execute the program all without the user's knowledge.
It's barely possible that you could transfer a workable program that way through fractals, and the people on the other end would have to spend weeks or months decoding the program before they could make it run IF they could figure out what it was in the first place.
pattern might be constructed in such a way that when scanned it can confuse any piece of software in the chain to cause a buffer overrun, at which point they could craft the following data to actually be executable and contain malware payload.
This is kinda what happened in a few instances of MP3-based viruses. MP3 file's metadata was malformed in such a way that it would crash the player and execute trojan payload that was embedded in that MP3 file.
Look up information about MP3Concept(MP3Virus.Gen)
There was another incident that involved MP3 file played in Winamp player. I can't find link about it now.
So while realistically unlikely, it's possible.


The main difference there being that the MP3 was a digital file which had been manipulated, not a sound recording. The file was corrupted in a very clever way. In the show the bone 'picture' was taken by the forensics team. They did not bring in a file the guy had created, they took a photograph. You can't insert corrupted data, because the data is coming from the camera they own.