@dag fair enough. I can understand the general consensus that it's cut like a porno "if it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck.." etc. I'll try to find the entire documentary and sift that instead when I find it.

And oh please bringing up Bernard Grad... he's a fucking quack.

I wouldn't call his self-aggrandizing and delusional bullshit "studies."

Woohoo! One less show full of bullshit... pitty she didn't leave before that quack Dr Oz got on the air.

Wow, this is great news. No more being restricted by school policy on what you can install and so on. I remember when I was in high school we used to play Quacke 1 Deathmatch on one floppy so you didn't even have to install itjust run it from A:, no sound and 320x240 resolution but still... Fun times...
This is a paradigm change waiting to happen... oh wait, it just did...

His statement was "... the first approximation of Pi, which refers to infinity."

Pi simply does not refer to infinity, the statement is wrong...false...untrue. This just isn't up for debate, it's not opinion, it's fact. If the point of his statement is that Pi cannot be precisely expressed in decimal form, he did a remarkably bad job of saying so.

If he stuck to his metaphysical claptrap, I'd have no real problem with him (I'd just ignore him), but he tries to put pseudoscience forward as the real thing. The man is a con artist and/or a quack. He deserves to be seriously slapped down...just as much as the owner of the creationist museum does.

Lucky?

Who the hell made you boss?

I mean...it's like you and, oh, somebody from Australia are going to run the joint.

Choggie!

You and Choggie telling us what points we can spend and which we can't.

Is it any coincidence that we had...yes Haitie...and yes Chilie...what next?

I ask you: what next?

Which earth will you quack with you demonic devices?

I don't like to think of people as liars, but I would agree that she has some serious mental issues and needs help. A lot of help. From an actual licensed psychiatrist, not some alternative medicine quack.

As my boss would say, don't throw the baby out with the bathwater. There have been quite a lot of studies that show spinal manipulation to be beneficial, in some cases the best option, for lower back pain, non-whiplash neck pain, and tension headaches. Just because some chiropractors are quacks doesn't mean all chiropractors are quacks.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18164469
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17909210
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19028250
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14973958
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1420782/?tool=pmcentrez
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18204386
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17369783
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14974063
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16574972
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15782244
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16514329
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15953306
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15266458

[edit: I agree the libel suit is BS]

homeopathic quacks beware.....they are using you for test dummies

@blankfist, I get what you're afraid of. I agree that what you're worried about is a serious issue, and something to be mindful of, but it isn't a new problem. It didn't spring into existence with the advent of Saturday morning cartoons, and it's certainly not the sole province of "collectivists" -- whoever those people are.

So, what should we do about it? Impugn the motives of any self-identified parent group that takes a stance on the content of children's programming? Try to make it seem like it's only the opposite end of the ideological spectrum that engages in it?

That seems cheap, and disingenuous.

Part of why I'm poking at you is because it's just sounding like another outcry against "liberal bias" in media. I know you well enough to say I don't think that's really all this is, but I'm getting that "walks like a duck, quacks like a duck" sensation, and wouldn't mind you dispelling it.

Really, I think your overall concern is propaganda.

I've honestly got no clue what we do about propaganda in the long run. Usually the liberal answer is "more education!", but that's exactly your concern -- that libruls are secretly indoctrinating kids so they're immune to right-wing propaganda.

I actually think propaganda is going to wind up being the greatest threat to humanity over the coming century. Our ability to properly filter signal from noise, now that we've suddenly plugged ourselves into this unfiltered global communication network is going to be key to our long term survival. I still want to believe that being plugged in that way is a good thing, but I'm noticing that people are increasingly choosing to live in a reality of their construction, complete with its own history, rather than the reality they actually inhabit.

That said, I welcome any solution you might have to the problem.

*quack!*

It should be fixed now.

>> ^qualm:
If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck....


So, what you're saying is that you're an asshole?

>> ^qualm:
If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck....

Not very good at this debating thing are you? I liked your "whatever, spock" comment better before you changed it. Haha. Lame.

If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck....

Ed Griffin? G Edward Griffin? The Great Quack? The big bad John Birch Society poobah? I think you will fit in well up there on the loonie-tune band-wagon.