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It seems to happen intermittently, and we're fairly certain we've correctly narrowed it down to our db server, which has been flaky and the reason the sites gone down a handful of times in the past few weeks.

I've been doing my best to monitor the db server's activity to try picking up on something that might need fixing. Thus far I haven't come up with much, but i admittedly haven't had a ton of time to devote to it yet.

Thank you for your patience.

...ever repugnant, the putrid "little...choggie thing" slinking in the shadows to futilely attempt to assuage the pain of the emptiness of Its half existence seeking banality as an improvement.

Patience, "little...thing," the affirming attention you so desperately long for is nigh.

My respect for Samson has risen greatly since seeing this. The patience and calm of the man and willingness to answer even the most absurd of questions is amazing. This video says more about his questioners then it does about him or Bilderberg.

Parenthood: It's a pure exercise in patience.

Perhaps you're right and they thought of that...but also perhaps not.
I must admit, I had not taken it being only on Audi's into account.
For jmd: Where I live, in the boondocks of far N Cali., we still have timed lights, and at certain times of day they are timed to force you to stop at (at best) every other block unless you speed like a demon. In order to hit every light green, you would have to either drive double the limit, or less than 1/2. They do this as a speed control measure, even though the limit is 35mph on main street. All that said, I doubt these old style traffic lights would 'talk' to the cars computer, making the whole point moot.
When my car drives itself I'll be far more forgiving of poor drivers, because it will be the car dealing with their mistakes while I just read a book...I can't wait. Until then, I'm a victim of my own limited patience.
I recall in Houston the freeways have a MINIMUM speed limit of 45 (which is ridiculous to anyone who has ever driven in Houston traffic...but I digress). I think minimum limits are good ideas. I think moving violations for people driving slow in the fast/passing lane would do the most to increase the flow of traffic, but that's just me.

Can't stand Holmes either, agree with your assessmen artician-Over-laughing, over-talking, his interruptions give me a headache. Sort of a douche-nozzle and can't help it. Props to Burr for his patience and style.

People who can't take social cues make the world quite uncomfortable...

Holy shit, we're heading towards a decade of sifting! I can't believe I've been here 6 years! I've made some great friends here and even met some in person too. This site is like an old faithful.

dag and lucky, I applaud your dedication, patience and creative genius wholeheartedly! Well fucking done

If that is all true (and I read through much of the linked study and made little sense of it since I'm not a nutritionist and only took one semester of advanced molecular biology, it was particularly technical and hard to follow), then golden rice seems to be the exception.
As I read it, 55-70% the RDA was the maximum vitamin A that could be expected, with the range being quite large. (oddly they cite a 200 gram rice dose given in the study has 1.3mg b-carotene/3.8 to get .34mg retinol, then a 100 gram dose is estimated to provide 55-70% EAR , then they say a 50 gram dose, a more reasonable amount for children to eat, would provide the same amount as the 100 gram dose did?) Even if it can supply 1/2 the daily allowance of vitamin A (which I'm not sure it can from the study you cite), that still does not make it 'safe' to release into the 'wild', or 'better' than natural, easy to grow alternatives as unknown long term side effects have not been studied. It may be better than doing nothing, or even better than natural alternatives, but without long term studies we simply can't know. That's my main point.
$10K a year is not much for a farm to make, most small farms make far more than that, but also need to spend all they make to keep going. That limit seems to say they DO intend to charge most farmers for this seed eventually. If that's $10K a year profit, I'm OK with that.
I would say we should hold up potentially life saving technology until we know the unintended side effects, we should not experiment on the needy (or the public in general) and claim it's in their best interest. We certainly should not do it in secret, as in non-labeled gmo's.
Monsanto is not the only bio-tech company that acts like this, just the most public. Most GMO creating bio-techs are pitbulls about protecting their 'intellectual property', even when it floats onto someone's property without their knowledge.
I stand corrected, she did say that. I missed it. I do not claim they don't have higher yields, I think that's their whole point and I think they do a decent job of producing more. I just don't see that higher yields are worth the possible long term damage and I think more, longer term, double blind studies need to be done by disinterested parties. Long term side effects can take a long time to show up, and with something this new to the food source, it deserves careful consideration, not profit driven usage.
Again, 'golden rice' is an exception if you are correct. My limited experience is with Monsanto corn and soy, which seem to be in a different category. Most GMOs are not made with variety, and ARE made to have a clear adaptive advantage, so I made an assumption that 'golden rice' would be the same. My bad. Even with that though, the genes WILL end up mixing with some other non-gmo rice, making it difficult or impossible to ensure your crop is not gmo of that's what you want. They may not dominate, but if they end up causing cancer in 10 years, and by then 99% of rice is 'contaminated', then what? I just think safety (edit: I meant to say forethought) is the better part of valor, and better that a few go without today than open the possibility of all going without tomorrow when patience and thoughtful examination can prove safety. Of course, I'm not going blind of vitamin A deficiency or starving from lack of corn...so perhaps my opinion doesn't matter.
To a few of your other points, if gmo's are safe, prove it (Monsanto and the like) and do it incontrovertibly and publicly, then we'll all want them. If the argument is that 'stupid hippies have convinced everyone they're bad, so we have to sell them in secret', that argument doesn't hold water in my mind. Monsanto could certainly afford a public service campaign if the science was in, but the LONG term studies aren't done yet.
Teaching someone to grow peppers or other vegi's seems easier than modifying a crop and spreading the seeds, it takes about 5 minutes and adds variety. I think that's better than treating them as un-teachable and experimenting on them.
...and I agree with the scientists in sciencemag, destroying the test fields isn't helpful and answers nothing.

Ok. let me answer those points...and apologize for the wall of text in advance.
As I said, this was the first time I have ever tried (or even wanted to try) the ignore button, and I found it quite wanting. It's already not working at all, after one day.
It is not at all about a dissenting voice I'm trying to silence or deafen myself to, it's about his personal grating style and the apparent complete lack of self knowledge or examination coupled with vitriol at every chance. It's about trying to avoid people that search for any possible thing to attack, even when they must make mistaken assumptions to find something to be irate about, and appear to do so consistently with glee and zealotry. I welcome dissenting voices, listening to other points of view is the only way one can really evolve socially and intelligently, but when those points of view are always presented with vitriol and insult the message is often quickly lost.
I must ask, how do you come to the translations you have applied to his statements? For instance...
QUOTE:"As to some ' deliberate affectation designed to make me appear intellectual' You might want to check your own understanding of intellectual versus one's perception of self, I tend not to place much credence in the concept, overrated and ultimately soulless when used to assert one's own importance or place the herd over some one else.
Intelligence in the grand schemata, does not necessarily connote wisdom."

your TRANSLATION: i dont know everything and neither do you.
Where I read this as :'I know you are, but what am I?...I don't care about intelligence, intelligence isn't wisdom.' (implying-'and I'm wiser than thou').

If he could have recalled who he was responding to and the numerous personal discussions we have had, where he always ended up backing down and apologizing for his (feigned?) outrage at a mistaken assumption he had made, I probably wouldn't have lost all patience. Having to remind him every time we converse, and having him ignore it in public forums but admit it in private, was infuriatingly frustrating and I gave up. Perhaps that's my failing, but it is one that has raised it's head only once, with him, and I'm not the only one it's happened with (HE mentioned that the 'ignore' button was created in large part because of him, so he knows full well how he is perceived, no matter what his motive).
His clearly stated intention is rabble rousing and jabbing the sleeping sheeple, and I'm tired of the insulting prodding, especially since I'm a newtboy not a sheeple. I have read where he posted that, and I have seen that from him, but for some reason it seems you are telling me that if I say so I'm somehow making his point... that I'm (like ALL others) 'a sleeping idiot that believes only lies and shit, all my ideas are shit, and now that I disagreed with him I'm also a piece of shit'? Sorry, I don't understand that. Perhaps you were referring to a new point he made that I have not read.
My responses in this thread were NOT to Chingy himself (is this who people mean when talking about Choggie?)...but to others commenting about him. I agree, it is becoming a spectacle rather than substance...I feel like that was also the case with most of the threads he took over with walls of ranting anger. I do feel some responsibility for furthering that by engaging him, which is why I tried to ignore him, and things just went downhill from there fast! Now I can't ignore him if I want to read others' comments nearly anywhere on the sift because it seems he's there, everywhere, picking fights and then complaining he's bullied and being posted about instead of the video topic...and here I am doing it too.
F*CK!
The sift was such a nice place for discussion 6 months ago, with all points of view being well respected if not agreed with and few if any trolls beyond QM, and he was fairly respectful. What the hell happened?

I'm beginning to see that issue as well. He is the first and only person I've ever had to 'ignore', and I'm seeing now that the reason I had to do so (his ranting, antagonistic, vitriolic style) also makes it nearly impossible to truly 'ignore' him since he picks fights on every thread and fills them with walls of text, text that's still in my face because his target invariably quotes him, and the quotes are not 'ignored'.
I also didn't really have a personal problem with him...but I ran out of patience with the constant antagonism and apparent thesaurus driven ranting. When I saw every post seemed to begin with ridiculous personal attacks based on previously corrected false assumptions, I gave up...but I still can't seem to escape. :-(
You are not alone, and you are not the first to point out his lack of communication skills, he knows how he sounds and does it on purpose, I think simply to get a rise out of his imagined foes and to feel superior to them.

I do have sympathy for Chingy, it's easy to see he's not happy in the world he lives in, but it's true enough that I am out of patience.
I can understand the frustration caused by bashing one's head against innumerable human walls, but that does not mean I'm willing to be mistaken for another wall and beaten against repeatedly. It gets old fast.
I have tried to explain myself clearly and repeatedly he claimed he understood and apologized for his mistaken assumptions about me and my positions (usually assuming I would act or think like a 'normal' person, something I try hard not to do), but then the next day it's like the conversation never happened and he's back to assuming I'm a 'normy' and being insulting and derisive. What do you do with that? I just give up...I don't have it in me anymore, and I don't want to be turned into an insulting clown fighting him all the time either. There's no gain to be had there.

"I don't like it it when mummy and daddy fight!"

Fair enough I can't disagree with a lot of that (your right to say it was directed at you upon a 2nd reading sorry).

As far as your criticism of Chingy in general your half right, but what I see after lurking on here for a few years reading posts is someone who has bashed his head against the same wall so long it's hurt.

Perhaps I'm projecting (don't we all?) but I see a pitfall I've fallen into myself many times throughout my life and it's the same pitfall we all fall into in our own ways. Love is the most virulent and dangerous of poisons!

Without wishing to delve into a very lengthy essay on the dynamics of dualistic consciousness/reality I strongly suspect that Chingy went through what is ultimately a very similar thought process to the one you just espoused i.e. "I'm sick of people not even trying to understand my heartfelt positions so fuck them".

Long story short: a lack of sympathy and patience on both sides.

Sad but entirely understandable and I have no desire to get on a high horse about it. I'm as bad if not frequently worse myself. This is the great curse of caring; we expose our flanks and allow our opponents blades to drive that bit deeper.

Is it really such a surprise that the more we care the thicker our armour of contempt becomes?

I guess when all is said and done though it's not my business to tell either one of you how to behave. Just from my pov your mutual bitterness here stems from a common source. Both of your arguments make perfect sense to me as does your contempt for each other and that on balance is probably what bummed me out enough to pitch in (futilely) with my own 2cents.


I'd like to ask you both to be a little more understanding with each other but I have no right to do that (nor would it work unless you each wanted it to anyway). So I shall end simply with "Do what thau wilts".