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Which Side Is The Gas Cap On?

oritteropo says...

It is in the engineering code of ethics that engineers will not make products that will thin the herd, instead they are required to hold paramount the safety, health, and welfare of the public (even the slower members of the general public).

KrazyKat42 said:

I'm not suggesting that we should just kill all the stupid people.

But what if we take all the warning labels off of everything and let nature take it's course?

Train nearly takes out U.S. Senator

Train nearly takes out U.S. Senator

Girl Banned from School for Supporting Friend with Cancer

enoch says...

@ChaosEngine
there will always be snake oil salespeople out there but i do not think that is snipers motivation.

as i stated this is not a black and white paradigm and a healthy diet and early detection are paramount.i am not suggesting that stage 3 lung cancer can be treated by eating pot brownies and bean sprouts.

chemotherapy is a last resort.
it is a hail mary pass.
controlled poisoning is as barbaric as it is tragic.

i think what bothers me most about this subject is not the disagreement between people such as ourselves but rather the pathetic research into what causes cancer.

im not kidding.
go check the numbers on how much is spent on researching the causes on cancer versus the treatment of cancer.
the difference is abysmal and shameful.

the little research into the causes of cancer do tend to point to our diet.surprise surprise...the food we are eating is slowly poisoning us (as some research is suggesting).

check this talk out.super informative,if heavy on the vegan:
http://videosift.com/video/Uprooting-the-Leading-Causes-of-Death

*edit:i know this does not make me an expert but my family is in the medical field and my older sisters partner is an oncologist and HE avoids chemo whenever possible.so much of my opinion on this matter has been formed by my conversations with him.

TDS 2/24/14 - Denunciation Proclamation

Trancecoach says...

Why didn't Lincoln buy the slaves before the war starts?

In his own words: “I have no purpose, directly or indirectly, to interfere with the institution of slavery in the States where it exists. I believe I have no lawful right to do so, and I have no inclination to do so.” ~Lincoln
&
“My paramount object in this struggle is to save the Union, and is not either to save or to destroy slavery. If I could save the Union without freeing any slave I would do it, and if I could save it by freeing all the slaves I would do it; and if I could save it by freeing some and leaving others alone I would also do that. What I do about slavery, and the colored race, I do because I believe it helps to save the Union; and what I forbear, I forbear because I do not believe it would help to save the Union.” ~Lincoln

He went to war to prevent secession, not to free the slaves. He was not looking for peaceful solutions to end slavery. And yes, most taxes the Federal government collected at the time came from the South. Coincidence?

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Warriors.... Come out to play-ee-ay!

NSA Data Used by IRS For Tax Fraud

bmacs27 says...

Thought experiment: Would you prefer a world in which privacy was still paramount, or a world in which there was no privacy whatsoever? That is, either your emails aren't read, but it's very easy to cloak clandestine activity. Or would you prefer the latter, in which even your neighbor can read your emails at the click of a button, but you can read Barack Obama's. Discuss.

Why People Should Be Outraged at Zimmerman's 'Not Guilty'

Buck says...

So Zimmerman should NOT have followed Trayvon. Period. That caused the whole mess. Not sure how the legal system works there but that should have translated to manslaughter or assault with a weapon...dunno excatly.

ok that said what KEEPS killing me is the picture of smiling 12 year old Trayvon that the media (even the Turks) keep using. In many countries he's be old enough to be a father and hold a full time job, yes 17 is a young age but it is NOT a kid. (I'm thinking 12 and under as a kid)

Lastly I know some conceal carry courses (if not all) teach that NO MATTER WHAT YOU WANT TO AVOID PULLING YOUR GUN OUT.

You avoid confontation at all costs.

Your mother is a whore? ok no problem. Your GF sucks all the dicks in the world, ok. NOT a reason to pull a weapon.

Teaching the value of (human) life is paramount for all parents these days.

Weird: The Al Yankovic Story

PlayhousePals says...

I heart Gary Cole!

True story: I once tried to give Weird Al a joint at the Cloud Room after a concert he performed with Dr. Demento at the Paramount Theater in Seattle. I used to do a lot of stupid things when I was drunk

No wire hangers... EVER!

Should Sumbitted Videos Have Summaries That Are Unique To The Submitter? (User Poll by alien_concept)

Romney Asked 14 Times if he'd De-fund FEMA

enoch says...

@renatojj
what you are alluding to is the basic fundamental argument of politics,or more aptly put:"what IS the role of government".

but to suggest that emergency disaster relief is somehow charity is stretching the logic beyond operating parameters.

now we could argue,
in regards to emergency disaster relief:
1.the size of the department.
2.the yearly funds allocated.
3.responsibilities and duties.
and a myriad of other details,but to suggest that emergency disaster relief is somehow forced charity is just patently false.

because even the most extreme political ideologies recognize that the protection of citizens is paramount and is a "fundamental" role of government.

we are not talking about food stamps or section 8 housing.
we are talking about natural disasters which wipe out whole communities of our fellow citizens,through no fault of their own,who have lost everything and are in desperate need of the very basics of life.

the argument is not the "role" but rather the "degree" of that role.

Your Religion Might Be Bullshit If... (with Redneck Ronnie)

gwiz665 says...

*hugs akwardly*
>> ^hpqp:

Oh boy, where to start...
Religion: Belief in or acknowledgement of some superhuman power or powers (esp. a god or gods) which is typically manifested in obedience, reverence, and worship; such a belief as part of a system defining a code of living, esp. as a means of achieving spiritual or material improvement. (OED)
Yes, there is something (actually several things) inherently wrong with religion, and it is naive (or disingenuous) to trot out the argument that religion has been "used" as "a social lever to inflict harm" without recognising that the reason it works so well for that is because of its particular negative aspects (most notably: blind submission to authority and the notion of "higher auth." trumping basic human values).
For one: supernatural belief, instilled/indoctrinated before critical thought can balance it out. Other than what I (and many others, including Hitchens) would call "state religions" such as communism, what set of beliefs is instilled uncritically into young minds, without any evidence to back it up? And I'm not talking about "don't put your fingers in the socket" either, which a) is for the child's good (contrary to religious beliefs) and b) can be tested/understood empirically as the child learns about electricity. No, supernatural beliefs, the staple (and one of the definitive aspects) of religion cannot be empirically tested, and thus rely on blind obedience to authority, which is a negative in and of itself. Moreover, it often brings into play a dictatorial reward/punishment system that the child (and adult) cannot discount/disprove with evidence; it is kept out of reach of experience, and thus is much harder to leave behind, while playing with humankind's deep-set fears (of death, eternity, pain, etc) in order to keep them under control. Can you tell me of another social organisation of beliefs/morals that does this? And while the "moderates" are less guilty of indoctrination and fear-mongering, they still give credence and the weight of majority (not to mention their influence as parental figures) to a set of supernatural beliefs which are detrimental to humankind. That they use these to justify positive moral codes only makes it worse, because it makes the latter seem dependent (or at least a result of) the former. As @PostalBlowfish rightly suggests, human morality is only impoverished by the supernatural beliefs religion attaches to it.
I could go on, but I have work to do. I will conclude by saying that as long as well-intentioned people like yourself continue to divorce the inherently negative aspects of religion/religious belief and the sociocultural evils it has often enshrined (backing them with an indefeasible authority) such as homophobia, tribalism, antisemitism, etc, society remains a long ways from being "fixed".
>> ^jonny:
[...]You make the point that the philosophical beliefs, particularly moral codes, are not intrinsically dependent upon religion. Even if that is true, it doesn't negate all other aspects of religion. Religion is more than a source of moral and ethical codes and rituals. I gave a tentative definition of it being a collectively held set of beliefs. The collective nature of that belief is very important. As social animals, humans need to feel connected to those around them, and religion provides what has been historically the most successful locus of connection in human societies. The social aspect of religion is probably its greatest function. It connects members of a community throughout every aspect of life, cradle to grave.
Now, you might say that a properly constructed set of philosophical beliefs based purely on rationality and science can accomplish the same thing. And I would say that if you did accomplish such a feat, you'd basically have a religion on your hands, regardless of its lack of theistic doctrine.
The point I was trying to make with my first comment was that any sufficiently powerful set of beliefs can be used as a social lever to inflict great harm on humanity. Various religions have been used such, as have the works of some great non-theistic philosophers. I was trying to point out that the "evils of religion" are not a problem with religion per se, but with things like demagoguery and xenophobic tribalism. I believe this distinction is of paramount importance, because it more accurately points us towards what needs fixing in our societies.




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