IF they want to spend money on elections? spend it on banning punch-style ballots so we don't have another 2000 Election situation.

I also just don't see the point of electronic voting. It would become a huge target for exploitation. Besides, if you have the scantron-style voting ballots, isn't that electronic enough? take your number 2 pencil and mark your damned ballot and let the scanner read it in. It's as simple as it needs to be.

I just don't see the benefit of having some sort of all electronic system. the more complicated it is, the more easily it can be disrupted.

Or if you MUST have a completely computerized voting system, at the very least, make it a closed system, no wireless, no transmission over the internet. electronic storage of the votes is fine, but if you transmit it over an open system, it's just going to get hacked eventually, There's no reason the results can't be sneaker-netted to where they need to go.

>> ^zeoverlord:

Or you could do the economically sane option of not having these photo Id laws in the first place since they are obviously not needed.
>> ^kurtdh:
>> ^volumptuous:
Demanding that citizens pay money to vote is unconstitutional as is stated in the 24th amendment to the constitution.
>> ^kurtdh:
I never quite got this. Can't these 20 million disenfranchised voters just pay 10 bucks or so to go get a photo ID that would allow them to vote?


So couldn't they put something in place that would allow people to get a free picture ID for voting purposes? Doesn't seem too difficult.

Or register as an absentee voter and get the ballot mailed to them. That just costs 44 cents plus a piece of paper and tape.


>> ^kurtdh:

I never quite got this. Can't these 20 million disenfranchised voters just pay 10 bucks or so to go get a photo ID that would allow them to vote?

Or you could do the economically sane option of not having these photo Id laws in the first place since they are obviously not needed.
>> ^kurtdh:

>> ^volumptuous:
Demanding that citizens pay money to vote is unconstitutional as is stated in the 24th amendment to the constitution.
>> ^kurtdh:
I never quite got this. Can't these 20 million disenfranchised voters just pay 10 bucks or so to go get a photo ID that would allow them to vote?


So couldn't they put something in place that would allow people to get a free picture ID for voting purposes? Doesn't seem too difficult.

>> ^volumptuous:

Demanding that citizens pay money to vote is unconstitutional as is stated in the 24th amendment to the constitution.
>> ^kurtdh:
I never quite got this. Can't these 20 million disenfranchised voters just pay 10 bucks or so to go get a photo ID that would allow them to vote?



So couldn't they put something in place that would allow people to get a free picture ID for voting purposes? Doesn't seem too difficult.

Demanding that citizens pay money to vote is unconstitutional as is stated in the 24th amendment to the constitution.
>> ^kurtdh:

I never quite got this. Can't these 20 million disenfranchised voters just pay 10 bucks or so to go get a photo ID that would allow them to vote?

I never quite got this. Can't these 20 million disenfranchised voters just pay 10 bucks or so to go get a photo ID that would allow them to vote?

Kept waiting for the song to get going... Feels like it never quite starts. More of a disjointed sound collage than a song.

>> ^luxury_pie:

>> ^lucky760:
quality
LMFAHS. Haven't laughed so hard no a sifted video in a while. I love Friends. It was all downhill after the first few seasons, but it was still a great 10 years.

Joey and Chandler never quite lost their appeal, though.


I think you meant Ross and Chandler.

Joey is frequently more and more disappointing after season 2. The writers started consistently using insultingly obvious setups and ridiculously unrealistic punchlines. They really devolved him into the guy so stupid he can't open a milk carton.

>> ^lucky760:

quality
LMFAHS. Haven't laughed so hard no a sifted video in a while. I love Friends. It was all downhill after the first few seasons, but it was still a great 10 years.


Joey and Chandler never quite lost their appeal, though.

The most delicious thing about pistachios is the shell. See, the shell acts as a sort of limiter on the amount of pistachio you can feasible consume per second. It limits you just enough that you can never quite binge fast enough to make yourself sick of them. I find myself frantically trying to strip the salty pearl, desperately chasing the tail of the Dragon, fingers raw from the pursuit but I can never quite catch it.

Ofc, you could always stockpile shelled pistachios, but that is true madness. Who on earth could resist a unshelled pistachio for more than a second?

Yeah, I've never quite understood why unsifted/PQed videos can't be declared dead. Seems like a pretty obvious change for the next sift upgrade, unless there's some obvious reason that I'm just not thinking of.

>> ^Reefie:

I was with the message for the first couple of minutes, but the final minute or so of the dialogue seemed to be suggesting "okay we screwed up with Earth, bugger it, let's find new planets".
Now I'm entirely for space exploration, getting to Mars, building a base on the Moon, baby steps in the grand scheme of exploring the universe, but necessary steps. However I would always put the priority of Earth first, would never abandon its well-being. We humans are nostalgic, and if we don't repair the damage we've done we'll forever be a lost species wandering from planet to planet, looking for places that are never quite the same as the Earth of textbooks (or should I say ebooks?) of old...
I guess what I'm saying is that this video could do with a bit more of a positive attitude towards fixing the problems we've created


What? I've watched this video 5 times and have no idea what you're talking about. I completely agree that space travel is no antidote to sustainability but there's nothing about this that implies we should abandon Earth. It merely states the fairly obvious fact that prosperity is a state of mind; one brought on by collective action rather than stagnation and depression. Exploration is the nature of our species and we could better address the little, petty problems we have here by imagining ourselves elsewhere than by pretending they have some crippling significance.

I was with the message for the first couple of minutes, but the final minute or so of the dialogue seemed to be suggesting "okay we screwed up with Earth, bugger it, let's find new planets".

Now I'm entirely for space exploration, getting to Mars, building a base on the Moon, baby steps in the grand scheme of exploring the universe, but necessary steps. However I would always put the priority of Earth first, would never abandon its well-being. We humans are nostalgic, and if we don't repair the damage we've done we'll forever be a lost species wandering from planet to planet, looking for places that are never quite the same as the Earth of textbooks (or should I say ebooks?) of old...

I guess what I'm saying is that this video could do with a bit more of a positive attitude towards fixing the problems we've created

Good luck on the revolution front. Not only do we need a new foundation on how we deal with corporations, police, military, science, religion/state, prisons, health-care, lawmaking, politics, policy foreign/domestic, executive functions state or country, emergency response systems, logistics roads/bridges/railroad, infrastructure, welfare and societal needs, energy, money/goods, trade, etc...

Like he said, we need a new foundation on our psychology. What we teach our children is bunk, it will make the majority of them happy for a few fleeting moments and unhappy the rest of their lives. We need to find a new foundation to help find happiness for everyone for the majority of their entire life--without resorting to competition and instead combining our strengths and creating a great community.

I'd wager the closest you'll get is to literally do education completely different than what we do now. Start at an early age and give the children a glimpse of ALL trades to be used and learned in the world. Over time find what they excel at and LIKE doing and help them achieve their goal in that field. Then continually narrow the field as they get older so they can truly become a master at something, like a chemical engineer. Education would, graphically, look more like a giant plinko board that students slowly make their way down and filter themselves into the field THEY want. If we supported students all the way PASS college to the point they were job ready (and in fact you could perhaps harmonize corporations into the mix, so that when you get your degree not only have you most likely interned/researched at the place you will work gaining practical knowledge you are ready day one out of school to start a job you LOVE and excel at.

I know you'll get clumps and pools of people in places you may not have uses for them, but if we truly put our minds to it I bet we could find a way to still get the method to work (I know corporations won't necessarily do what I said except in--most likely-- the science fields, but having just a few large companies do it would help). Then if we lived a slower paced life, with more time off to OURSELVES than in slavery to someone else you might see a change in the overall attitude of our community and maybe civilization. Help people pay for modest houses and maybe even some furniture. Cover healthcare needs for each other, maybe even other social services as well. Tone the military down to a defensive one, one that can defend us, but can only truly become a real war machine like what happened in WWII.

Granted, there would be a lot to work out, but I highly doubt it's impossible to create a GREAT life here on this planet if we all work together to make it happen. Hell, we walked on the fucking moon! I know most of this will require not only leaps in science and with those leaps, hopefully ,soon, some of those bring about leaps in the psychology fields helping us to genetically weed out sociopaths, psychopaths, unipolar, bipolar, borderline, Asperger's, sever depression/anxiety, OCDs, addictions, etc... Plus with expanded bio-engineering, especially in genetics, if we could make sure people atleast have an IQ of say 120 (hell if you truly find the master switch--just turn it up), get rid of all genetic diseases and birth imperfections, rid us of deafness, blindness, baldness, etc... Then add in the advancements in bio-engineering on the mechanical, nanotechnological, electronics, and computers and we'll have one hell of a ride (of course if we haven't solved the psychological issues by then, we will almost certainly kill ourselves off). But, that stuff is 50 years away with some probably 150-200 years away. If we can help stabilize our humanity, through engineering and perfecting our psychology, I really believe we'll have a chance one day to see some sort of Utopian society.

Everything he talked about most likely leads to something that MIGHT be better than what we had. But, it won't be here in the U.S. and I doubt it'll even be in Asia (China, South Korea, and Japan). Europe, excluding the U.K. has a chance, with northern Europe having a better chance. You never quite know who history will choose next to bring the next big leap in progress to the human civilization.

/I didn't think I'd write something so long about that. Oh well, I just felt like sharing a little more optimistic view on what could happen to we humans.

Again QM,

Lies. There have been more than a few innocents killed on death row.




>> ^quantumushroom:

Death penalty:
Liberals never quite get around to thinking about the victims of the convicted murderers on death row; not ONE of the latter has ever been proven innocent--posthumously or otherwise--since the 1950s.