Phenomena such as Faith Healing, Glossolalia and Snake Handling existed in US christian movements as early as the 1800's. It seems like the video you replied with is more like one christian group trying to distance itself to the embarrassment that is evangelicals, and it's easy to rope in foreign adaptations of Pentecostalism to use as evidence.

Pentecostalism itself is a foreign adaption which is based on a heresay known as montanism (now neo-montanism). It got its start in the early 1800's by the "Irvingites", who followed an outcast pastor teaching heretical christology doctrines. The father of the modern movement (early 1900s), John Alexander Dowie, believed he was the prophet Elijah and the first restored apostle to the church. It also has links with free masonry.

Ultimately your embed is just commentary on internal strife in an overall larger movement that I don't care about, and is a distraction from the real issue. What all of these have in common is the fact that human beings have a fundamental inability to avoid large scale social misdirection, and that is observable through every aspect of our existence regardless of culture, religion, social structure, lifestyle, sports team, et al.

The embed is about the false spirit which has invaded the church, which is the same spirit working in the video above. It is highlighting the abberant behavior that people who don't know much about Christianity assume is normal for Christians. This is due to the proliferation of the pentecostal and charismatic churches. This is not a judgement against pentecostals or charismatics, it is simply to say that this spirit of disorder is not from God.

Yes, there is a herd mentality, which is why the bible tells us to discern all things. Human beings are fundementally vulnerable to spiritual deception. Only God can protect us from this delusion that society is steeped in.

While I wholeheartedly agree with you that the obsession over materialism, commercialism and sexuality as exploited by modern media, such as the original video portrays, is in many ways a poison to the human condition, there are many worse examples of this in every society. Least of which would be this exact scenario played out in Western culture when a pop-star pays a charity visit to support their government sanctioned killers in places like Iraq and Afghanistan.

Evil doesn't often come dressed in red skin and armed with pitchforks. Evil can be banal and mundane, and it will usually come camouflaged as something good. I don't condemn the good deed, but I think you have to admit there is something profoundly disturbing about seeing grown men, soldiers no less, lose their minds as if someone flipped a switch. And yes, there are worse things, but that isn't really the point. I was pointing out the strings so someone might notice the puppeteer.

I really feel like you come here to show other people your belief as a way to convince yourself. Having a personal crusade to publicly disclaim everything that you judge as contradicting to the beliefs you were raised with makes it easy to put the doubt you have about your own faith out of mind.

I grew up without any religion in my life. I was formally agnostic, and so I understand your perspective. You don't see any evidence of a spirit, and none of it adds up in your mind. To you it's all some kind of mass delusion or hysteria. That's what I used to think until God showed me He is very real, and very much involved in what is going on on Planet Earth. I found that material existence is but a veil to a much larger reality. I pray that God will give you that experience as well, and show you that Jesus loves you, and that He is the way, the truth and the life. I am not here to prove something, I am here to do the will of God and tell you that Jesus died for your sins so you can be reconciled to God and have eternal life. I am here to warn you that the wages of sin is death, and that if you die in your sins without Gods pardon, you face Gods judgement, and hell. I say these things out of love, because I care about what happens to you.

PS - have you ever seen Japanese tentacle porn?

Hell vomited up that garbage, there is no doubt. I find though that true corruption comes by 1000 cuts. By the time a child is six years old, they will have spent more time in front of the Television/media than they will have spent quality time with their dads in a whole lifetime. That is what is really disturbing, and no one is standing in the gap. Modern parenting is putting your kid in front of a TV and giving them whatever the TV programs them to ask for. Sadly, this is just scratching the surface.

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1. I have lived through a coup attempt in Zambia, perpetuated by a military officer who called himself Captain Solo. Which was the name of a cheap straight to VHS movie that was shown on local TV just a week before.

2. I have lived through Gulf War 2 in March of 2003. Everyone assumed we would die in Kuwait because Iraq was going to use chemical, biological and possibly nuclear SCUD warheads. I felt sorry for all the troops forced to put on their MOPP suits every time there was an alarm. It was surreal.

3. I nearly got kidnapped in a car in Lusaka, a car thief was trying to break into our car while I was sleeping in the back. I stopped him by locking down the doors fully before his hanger wire could decouple it. He looked at me with accusing eyes like I just took candy from a child.

4. I learnt English entirely by sound and watching American movies. My entire grammar structure is based around what sounds right. As such I used to have a very American accent.

5. I was born Muslim but only ever practiced it culturally. I went to the mosque only once before realizing I could not be a servant to any god because am simply too lazy to give a shit either way.

6. I spent most of my early childhood on my uncle's farm, raising chickens, doing masonry work and harvesting potatoes. This experience has made me humble.

7. I cannot live in comfort in my country because I have severe life threatening allergies to its environment.

8. I nearly drowned as a child at a water park when I got sucked in the water intake for the slipping slide ride. I vividly remember how it felt looking up through the water up at big African man who was drying himself near the pool. He jumped in and saved me. I was so scared I never got to look at his face or thank him. I regret this.

9. Africa was the best place I have lived in. Its more beautiful then most people realize. The people are in desperate poverty but are gentle and kind. You will never see more beautiful clouds anywhere else.

10. I have a purple belt in Karate that I got as a kid. I think it's totally useless and has no baring on any combat ability I have.

11. I used to stay up late at night in high school watching MTV Europe, MTVChillout and MTVAlternative nation, back when it was good.

12. Kuwait proved to me that money does not buy happiness nor does wealth make people better individuals.

13. My favourite city will always be Montreal. I had the best and worst of times there.

14. I do alot of drugs. Most of the time I don't look for a high. I look for relief. Its quite healthy for my psyche. I like psychedelics and exploring the limits of my psyche. I like to disassociate.

15. I have a heart problem and in all likely hood will die prematurely. This doesn't bother me that much.

16. I have been arrested while being high on mushrooms, the experience was surreal and hilarious and depressing all at once. My arresting officer was the splitting image of Spud from Trainspotting.

17. Deja vus scare and confuse me.

18. I been to more countries then I care to mention. People are really all the same all over.

19. I love music, I have music collection I have maintaining since middle school. I will be very sad to lose it. I love only particular songs and moments, its hard for me to say I like any particular artist. The question what is your favourite genre of music always troubles me, its hard to pick one. Alot of my music I listen to in particular moods. I would be the first person to implant a music player into my brain.

20. I love cinema, I think cinema is humanity reflected, our dreams, desires, hopes, fears and experiences.

21. I wish I could stop being so cynical.

22. I don't know what to do with my life.

23. I used to go to the roof of my building in Africa and sleep under a full starry sky. Trying to pick out the satellites.

24. Life is hard to take seriously, I feel like I have been here before, and did all this before. I expect to wake up any minute now.

25. I feel like I shared too much.

At 00:10 (03:01:13 on the camera timer) you can see the inner structure of the awning.

Do you have to build everything from plywood and spittle in the US?

Lucky for the driver though.

In Germany, he would have been crushed under tons of solid masonry or concrete.....but he wouldn't have been able to scratch it with his ridiculously big car/trailer in the first place......then again, we don't have that many drive though ATMs here.....and no cars that big.

Let's say, it probably wouldn't have happened here.......or anywhere except the US.

Oh wow. I mean, even the footnotes to this thing are unbelievable: the brother of the Chief of the Fed during WWI was the Chief of intelligence in Germany. AAAAAAAhahahhahahha. This place is as fucked as any has ever been before. Such a shame, too; it had some pretty good masonry at its foundation. (If you got that reference, you win the big brain booby prize).

Oh - they're not "denied," per se - just that the process is delayed so long by the bureaucratic process that many people die before they are taken care of. Like I said - ask the craigslist community. I used to write up inquisitive posts, years ago even, on craigslist, and just take note of statistics based on the stories I'd receive about certain insurance providers.

What a benefit to make medical insurance mandatory - essentially that makes the demand for insurance 100% in that state, and even though there really is no such thing as "supply" in the insurance industry, you better believe insurance prices are going to rise there.

Was I speaking of hunter/gatherers? No - I was talking about the invention known as civilization versus many earlier methods of societal organization - hunting/gathering represents only a small portion of that, as most tribes in existence prior to civilization were not involved in hunting or gathering themselves - they traded services and products for other tribes' services and products...i.e. - today we'd have electronic engineers and computer programmers, but they would be organized into tribes, in very much a similar way to the tribe of Masons that has existed for centuries. Nowadays, members of the Masonic tribe often do not practice actual Masonry, but where do you think they originally came from?

I think you forget to recognize one important fact of modern hierarchical "civilization" - much of our society does not actually enjoy life - they simply enjoy the THINGS they receive from it - ask almost anyone, and you'll get the ignorant reaction of "you gotta do what you gotta do." That is quite indicative of the type of society we now live in, where very few people even do jobs that they want to do, and are governed by laws that should not actually be applied across the board in the way they are.

It does not have to exist like that. I'm of the opinion that George W. Bush is right when he says "This is a war for the very fate of civilization itself." It is - civilization is not helping us be happier, or live more productive lives - it's only helping us accumulate more stuff we don't need.

Let's assume that the figures you quote above would be the same in a tribalistic society. Do you not agree that humans are adaptive creatures, that if such a fact were true around the globe, humans would not begin to figure out ways to solve that, as well? Currently, the individuals that are responsible to see to it that humans do not die in the number you quote above are motivated, most often, by the same system most roles in this world are - a belief that money will help them, when in fact, most often money will not(as is evident by insurance companies' using technicalities to deny certain services).

Please note that the civilization we currently subscribe to was just an ill-conceived evolution of the tribal system that existed before it - a time that, of course, was not by any means "utopian," but in which humans most often held roles that they chose, that they knew, and that they cared about.

How many people do you know that are working in places/working on subjects they really want to work with?