This is a false or misleading statement. The reasons for some Canadians having to wait or not being able to have a doctor are different. Canada has had a terrible drain on it's medical system with doctors and nurses going down to the US, because they make more money there. This has lead to new programs to entice them to stay in Canada. It looks like they have been working, but it's a 10 year study and we need to see the numbers.

As a Canadian who has been though the healthcare system in Ontario, and had family members who've had been through health care in Quebec, Manitoba, Alberta, British Columbia, Halifax and Newfoundland.Labradour, I can tell you the parts that work and the parts that don't.

I'm a type I diabetic and I've had cancer twice. I've had a sarcoma in my saliva gland and as a result of radiation therapy, I've had melanoma skin cancer crop up on my body as well. I've had four major surgeries on my body. Two of them were serious complicated nervous system surgeries or lymphatic resecctions. I've been through my fair share of Canadian health care.

First things first. It's not a national healthcare. Anyone saying national healthcare doesn't know what they're talking about. The provinces and territories have their own health care. Granted, the territories get a lot more help from the Federal Gov't, but the health needs of people in Ontario are different from those in Manitoba.

Let's get into the brass taxes. I've had the nerve surgery and radiation therapy that was done on my face evaluated at a hospital in West Virgina as part of a study to compare American HC vs. Canadian HC. For my first surgery, I got to choose my doctor, I was given a list. They recommended one doctor, who was an expert in North America for nerve surgery, but he was recovering from a surgery of his own. They suggested I wait for him to be ready, but if I wanted to proceed, I could wait if I wanted.

I waited and surprise, no facial paralysis. I then had to do 30 days of intense radiation therapy in my parotid bed, to make sure they got it all.

I paid a total of $300 dollars in parking. I also have private health insurance for diabetic supplies, which means any medication I had to get to deal with the after effects of radiation had an 85% payback.

Years later when the effects of radiation had settled and I had a tumour form from the radiation, I had gone to my family doctor, saw a specialist the next day and then within the week I had an excision done. It came back positive and within a week of that, I was given a sentinel node biopsy to see if it had spread.

It had.

Within a month of the first examination, I had a full lymphatic ressection of my left leg and groin done. This wasn't as complicated as the facial nerve surgery, so I got a list and a suggestion of who to do the surgery.

That came back clean, but I now deal with a lot of complications from that.

That surgery cost me nothing.

In West Virgina at a hospital (they didn't tell me which one they used.) The total for all the exams (CT, MRI, etc.) the surgery and the radiation therapy came out to $275,000. Give or take.

This is why it drives me nuts when I see people get things wrong about Canada. We have problems, oh yes we do. For example, don't be over the age of 65 in BC or Quebec. The diagnostics training in Nova Scotia or Newfoundland if pretty terrible. But, I got to choose my doctor, and I saw everyone really quick. Why? Because you don't fuck with melanoma.

So, I'm sorry Trancecoach, I saw that video you linked. The guy lost a lot of credibility at "Communist State of Canada." You're already skewing your message to say something. You are just plain wrong about health care in Canada, the way you talk about. I am living proof of how well it works.

I'm a self employed photographer and the most I've ever had to pay was for parking at the hospital. That was the $300 dollars. I paid my taxes and that paid for my health care. If I didn't, and if other Canadians didn't, I would not be here, as with many other Canadians.

Critique us for the things we do shitty, but I have yet to see anyone do that. I see talking points and misinformation from people just spreading false info.

Get your facts straight. I know how it works in Ontario the best. But, I also know for a vast majority of the other country. I can tell you Saskatchewan has had an exodus of nurses, but that's not bad health care system. That's a gov't system that can't keep nurses in the province. If we can keep doctors and nurses, the system works great.

The guy you linked to, most of his sources for data are absolute crap and he misleads a lot of his talking points. This stupid lottery doctor that happened was because it was an isolated town in the wilderness and there was only one doctor left after the other passed away. So yes, he had to do a lottery for people so he wouldn't get swamped, unless it was an emergency. It was a town, I believe about 10,000 people, but I'm not sure on that.

The best part of building your house on a flood plain is the occasional glacier.

Homes destroyed by 9m wall of ice in Manitoba.

The same thing (only a bit more severe) just happened in Manitoba.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/story/2013/05/10/mb-ochre-river-beach-ice-wave-homes.html

>> ^mintbbb:

I like it
promote


Thanks MB! (which is also the abbreviation for Manitoba!)

^References:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Canadian_Mint#Winnipeg_facility

http://suite101.com/article/mennonites-in-manitoba-a32031

http://www.gov.mb.ca/mit/floodinfo/floodoutlook/floodresponse.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interlake – (where the video was shot) "As of 1999, the average family income was $32,570, and the unemployment rate was 10.60%. Twenty-two per cent of the riding's residents are listed as low-income. Almost 25% of the riding's residents have less than a Grade 9 education."

>> ^obscenesimian:

>> ^Shepppard:
>> ^obscenesimian:
>> ^luxury_pie:
>> ^obscenesimian:
Wow, what a tard. 50 below and he decides to ride his snow machine or atv.

wtf? empathy much?

No empathy here. As you can see by the condition of his finger tips, he was riding a snow machine or atv and froze his fingers where the knuckles faced the wind, leaving the finger tips less damaged. Like avalanche deaths from high marking or any other sort of motorized idiocy, this behavior is only worthy of scorn. If his children suffer because he cannot work, I will exhibit empathy and perhaps charity.

Here, have a picture of where Churchill Manitoba (where he's from) is located.
Now, you're American, so you most likely don't understand how Canadian population density works, but the farther north you get, the lower the populations.
And the lower the populations, the more likely it is that they don't have snow plows, and need to do things like use snowmobiles to get into town if they need supplies.
Until you have all the facts, how about not being an ass and giving the benefit of the doubt? Because most likely, he only rode because he had to.

Wow, Lotta hate going on. Anyone who fucking lives and works outside where it goes to 50 below should know that sitting on your ass creating your own windchill will give you frostbite. Plowing does not occur 40 to 60 miles an hour. At 50 below and high rates of speed heated grips don't work to keep ALL of ones hand warm . All of you fucking desk monkeys know jack shit! This type of frostbite happens to people involved in "Recreational Activities" now be good little nerds and fuck off.


How bout you read my post again carefully?

I never said HE was the one plowing, and if I did, why the fuck would he be doing it on something with an open cab.

Exactly what I said was: "IN THE NORTH, THEY DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE PLOWS, AND HE POTENTIALLY HAD TO USE A SNOWMOBILE TO GET INTO TOWN"

Nowhere is there ANY information as to why he was riding a snowmobile, but if it's 50 below, there's a pretty good fucking chance that he wasn't doing it recreationally, and until stated otherwise, once again, how about we stop assuming and have a little bit of sympathy?

>> ^Shepppard:

>> ^obscenesimian:
>> ^luxury_pie:
>> ^obscenesimian:
Wow, what a tard. 50 below and he decides to ride his snow machine or atv.

wtf? empathy much?

No empathy here. As you can see by the condition of his finger tips, he was riding a snow machine or atv and froze his fingers where the knuckles faced the wind, leaving the finger tips less damaged. Like avalanche deaths from high marking or any other sort of motorized idiocy, this behavior is only worthy of scorn. If his children suffer because he cannot work, I will exhibit empathy and perhaps charity.

Here, have a picture of where Churchill Manitoba (where he's from) is located.
Now, you're American, so you most likely don't understand how Canadian population density works, but the farther north you get, the lower the populations.
And the lower the populations, the more likely it is that they don't have snow plows, and need to do things like use snowmobiles to get into town if they need supplies.
Until you have all the facts, how about not being an ass and giving the benefit of the doubt? Because most likely, he only rode because he had to.


Wow, Lotta hate going on. Anyone who fucking lives and works outside where it goes to 50 below should know that sitting on your ass creating your own windchill will give you frostbite. Plowing does not occur 40 to 60 miles an hour. At 50 below and high rates of speed heated grips don't work to keep ALL of ones hand warm . All of you fucking desk monkeys know jack shit! This type of frostbite happens to people involved in "Recreational Activities" now be good little nerds and fuck off.

>> ^obscenesimian:

>> ^luxury_pie:
>> ^obscenesimian:
Wow, what a tard. 50 below and he decides to ride his snow machine or atv.

wtf? empathy much?

No empathy here. As you can see by the condition of his finger tips, he was riding a snow machine or atv and froze his fingers where the knuckles faced the wind, leaving the finger tips less damaged. Like avalanche deaths from high marking or any other sort of motorized idiocy, this behavior is only worthy of scorn. If his children suffer because he cannot work, I will exhibit empathy and perhaps charity.


Here, have a picture of where Churchill Manitoba (where he's from) is located.

Now, you're American, so you most likely don't understand how Canadian population density works, but the farther north you get, the lower the populations.

And the lower the populations, the more likely it is that they don't have snow plows, and need to do things like use snowmobiles to get into town if they need supplies.

Until you have all the facts, how about not being an ass and giving the benefit of the doubt? Because most likely, he only rode because he had to.

Winter tires are available, but I don't think any state requires you to have them.

The problem in Seattle is 1) the people aren't used to snow, 2) it's usually a later of ice covered in a later of wet snow, and 3) it's damn hilly. It doesn't snow often so there's no real incentive to buy winter tires.

I know in Quebec all vehicles (? might be all passenger cars) are required to have them on for the winter months. I live in Manitoba, and while they don't require you to have winter tires, most people get them because otherwise the all season rubber freezes and your tires go lumpy.

Well when pretty much all policy gets dictated by what Manitoba and Ontario and Quebec want. I say fuck'em !

fuck'em hard.

The way we devise representation in this country is pathetic. Based on gross population not square footage. BULL PUCKY.

>> ^rougy:

@bcglorf,
The problem I have with your point of view mainly rests on the presumption that the people who were defrauded "got what they deserved." I just don't see it that way. It's sort of justifying the bankers actions.
When somebody who is in a position of power and respect, as are most bankers and investors I would say, you can't blame John & Jane Doe for trusting in their advice.
The bankers and investors should have known better, and the vast majority of them did, but that didn't stop them from spreading the lies and conning people into signing their lives away.
P.S. - I hope Greece defaults. Something is rotten in Denmark when entire countries must go bust in order to satisfy Wall Street.


The people I figure were defrauded were the ones investing in the companies that were carrying terrible bad mortgages but calling themselves grade A safe investments. Those investors were defrauded and have very serious cause for concern as they were outright lied to by people wanting to profit off them.

As for the people buying homes at inflated prices, I would say they hold some blame and some plain old bad luck. The ones that took on mortgages they could only afford if the home increased in price I do blame pretty readily. They took a big risk, and risk were they were informed. They knew that they were betting on housing prices increasing. They knew the terms they were betting under and what it would mean if they won or lost the bet. They lost and should take the loss. The banks encouraging and focusing on those bets lost as many times over as they had customers lured in. The difference is the banks were pocketing more profit and got tax payer assistance to cushion their loss while the customers were left to deal on their own. I'd prefer both were left to deal with the consequences.

As for Greece, I've only scratched beneath the surface still, but it is looking like their debt problems run much deeper than just social services spending. I'm very curious were the real turning/tipping point in this was. If anyone has any good advice aside from the lead Rougy already threw out that'd be great. My current trail is the 40% of the Greek economy that was purely public sector jobs. That makes for a house of cards that's very vulnerable to government cut backs. My province(Manitoba) is in that very same boat and it is federal transfer funds from the federal government alone that is keeping us afloat.

Up till a few years ago, it was here too. Beet sugar in Manitoba and Cane sugar in BC, from what I recall. I miss it. This corn based sweetener is so gross to me.

In reply to this comment by calvados:
I want to try Coke made with sugar. They still make it that way in Mexico, I hear.

Thats too bad that they don't agree. The Cree in northern Manitoba confirm that they call us Eskimo based on "eaters of raw-meat", but hey, what do they know?

Qallunaq (also pronounced kabloonak) comes from kabluk (eyebrows), and naak (stomach). The story goes that Scottish whalers who came over in the 1700's had big bushy eyebrows and big stomachs - and the name stuck.

You can call me a snow-chink if you want. I won't feed that troll.>> ^xxovercastxx:

>> ^Throbbin:
it's actually a Cree word that the French adopted
Very few linguists, apparently, agree with that etymology.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eskimo#Origin_of_the_name_Eskimo
What's 'Qallunaq' translate to?
How about we call you guys 'snow-chinks'?

Tags for this video have been changed from 'ice, manitoba, selkirk, winnipeg, canada, flood, floating backhoe' to 'ice, manitoba, selkirk, winnipeg, canada, flood, floating backhoe, amphibious' - edited by calvados

That's a lot like Operation Red Nose, which runs here during the holidays. Except, they work in teams of three, there's a chase vehicle (scooter plus Manitoba winter equals nuh uh), and they work for donations only.