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Free Speech Considered Support for Nazism

newtboy says...

Some was addressed.
Read the first link... https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/ld50-gallery-protest-lucia-diego-donald-trump-alt-right-hackney-dalston-a7596346.html
Stevens wasn't the only one.

If they claim they have them speak there to " provide a vehicle for the free exploration of ideas, even and perhaps especially where these are challenging, controversial or indeed distasteful for some individuals to contemplate." but hold the events in secret, only open to far right wingers and Nazis, that's pretty blatantly a lie. Don't you agree?

When they gave private information about the artists who outed their secret agenda to Amerika they became unambiguously guilty by their own actions, not just association....and guilt by association is still guilt. If I stand with, support, defend, and host NAMBLA, I fully expect to be lumped with them. They NEVER denounced the hate, racism, or fascism they supported, and they participated with them in attacks against those who oppose Nazis. Ergo-Nazi.

bcglorf said:

@newtboy,

EDIT: drafted this and sent while you were writing previous reply, so maybe some of this is addressed?

Alright, I've gone one step further and read through the shutdownld50 tumblr 'evidence' seeing as they of all places probably gather the most condemning evidence they could.

The evidence amounts to putting on 1 event/exhibit that included far right folks, and included "Brett Stevens", whom I'm not familiar with but the quote from him on Breivik certainly sounds bad. In addition to putting on this exhibit, the even worse accusation is that they didn't really advertise it much publicly. Now, call me skeptical, but I have to believe that if they HAD advertised it heavily that ALSO would have compounded their guilt.

To me it still looks like guilt be association. The gallery had the audacity to host speakers that people disliked, so ergo-nazi!

Please though, if there is more or better evidence then please do let me know, or point me to what I'm missing. Is the Stevens guy so vehemently pro-nazi and and pro-violence that the association really should be enough? I'm inclined to believe no else they'd have better and more extensive quotes to use against him.

Again, I'm coming from a place of not knowing any of these people's backgrounds or history, but if we are supposed to believe them to be villians of such a high degree, I want a stronger case than those people say so and if you spent a few weeks of research on it you'd agree, trust us.

Free Speech Considered Support for Nazism

newtboy says...

Sorry @Buttle it seems you fell for some far right bullshit.
This video is apparently three years old.
It also hides the truth of what's happening, this is not some man on the street, he's a public figurehead of white supremacist organisations in the UK, standing in front of what amounts to their headquarters.


From Reddit-
u/kanyeguisada did the work on this three years ago - here's there very level headed account of this.

"So looking into this...
The place being protested was the LD50 gallery in Hackney, London. They and owner Lucia Diego describe themselves as "neo-reactionary" but they are in fact supporting literal fascists and white supremacists and were trying to become the organizing spot in London for such groups to give them legitimacy and attempt to convert white progressives to their cause through the art world:

In the summer, it held a “Neo-reaction conference” which included a talk by Brett Stevens, a white supremacist who has lauded the “bravery” of Anders Breivik - the Norwegian white supremacist who killed 77 people in 2011.

Mr Stevens' writing was said to be an inspiration to Breivik.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/ld50-gallery-protest-lucia-diego-donald-trump-alt-right-hackney-dalston-a7596346.html

http://www.eastlondonlines.co.uk/2017/03/video-protesters-gather-outside-dalston-art-gallery-over-controversial-exhibition/

http://www.hackneygazette.co.uk/news/politics/ld50-gallery-anti-fascist-protesters-march-through-dalston-1-4907083

https://www.hackneycitizen.co.uk/2017/02/25/ld50-gallery-protest-video-anti-fascists-clash-lone-counter-protester/

https://shutdownld50.tumblr.com/

The "free speech protestor" in this video is Daniel/DC Miller, who not only gave his name to the media, but is a public figure apparently widely known in Hackney for his support of LD50 and who holds (and tries to hold) public lectures on literal white-supremacist fascists:

https://www.facebook.com/events/100614430464838/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julius_Evola

http://www.metamute.org/editorial/articles/it-ok-to-punch-nazi-art-gallery

http://thebaffler.com/latest/ld50-nolan

Now I'm all for free speech in the US. I think even white supremacists like the KKK have the right to speak their disgusting speech and hold rallies and people thinking otherwise should ask themselves what happens when speech they support suddenly might become considered hate speech. For instance many people on the left who support BDS/sanctions on Israel are often accused of "hate speech" simply for calling Israel an apartheid state. Free speech isn't just something the right cares about.

However, other people have the right to free speech too, and can yell right back at you and of course https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/free_speech.png. The guy in this video wasn't just some guy off the street supporting free speech rights but was actually a supporter of literal far-right white-supremacist fascism and was known to the community before this happened, so maybe hold off on the outrage about how mean the protestors were to him until you get the whole picture."

*fakenews

Bruno Mars Carpool Karaoke

Mordhaus says...

Maybe, but realistically, they won't. Here is a list of the most popular hits of 1916, let me know which ones you hear people singing today.

"O Sole Mio" by Enrico Caruso
"Santa Lucia" by Enrico Caruso
"Somewhere a Voice is Calling" by John McCormack
"Where Did Robinson Crusoe Go With Friday On Saturday Night?" by Al Jolson
"I Love A Piano" by Billy Murray
"Pretty Baby" by Billy Murray
"I'm Gonna Make Hay While the Sun Shines in Virginia" by Marion Harris
"Keep the Home Fires Burning ('Till the Boys Comes Home)" by James F. Harrison
"There's A Long Long Trail A-Winding" by James F. Harrison
"Ireland Must Be Heaven, For My Mother Came From There" by Charles Harrison

bareboards2 said:

100 years from now, they will be singing Uptown Funk.

The lead in to that song, and performance of it, is just sooo much fun.

Armenian girl sing "Fifth Element" Opera live on The Voice.

harlequinn says...

She's quite good.

It's essentially a popular music competition. Opera does not fall into that category anymore. An entirely unfortunate turn of events really. So no surprise that the other two don't think they can do anything with her.

The original movie version was sung without digital alteration, but the on screen actress was miming.

The original song, Il dolce suono, from the opera Lucia di Lammermoor, is much nicer without the pop ending from the movie.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLJHmtQo_kQ

newtboy said:

Amazing. I didn't think a person could sing that song without digital help.
Really, only one of them wanted her on their team!?! Now I want to see the other contestants they think have more potential than this girl.

Joe Scarborough finally gets it -- Sandy Hook brings it home

chingalera says...

@ redsky-Took your advice and checked the descending list, and Martinique and Turkmenistan are on either side of the U.S.....I have thought of St. Lucia or Martinique to check out to if ever deciding to trade passports....

the fifth element diva song-evgenia laguna

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Dan Rather to journalists: you're doing it wrong

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Undersea Volcano Eruptions Caught On Video

So, last night's Lost... (Blog Entry by Sarzy)

gwiz665 says...

@blankfist I suppose one interpretation is that the authors of the Island is the people on oceanic 815, and they fill in elements they need until they could get some closure and move on.

My interpretation is that what happened on the Island during the whole show was real in the same sense as when Dumbledore talks to Harry after he's dead:

"Tell me one last thing," said Harry. "Is this real? Or has this been happening inside my head?"
"Of course it is happening inside your head, Harry, but why on earth should that mean that it is not real?"

I think everything that happened on the Island was "invented" by the "survivors", who for their own reasons could not move on, on their own. They got caught in a limbo of their own creation. The different people who actually popped up once in a while like libby, ana-lucia etc. might have been on the plane, but actually moved on already, explaining why they weren't in the church at the end.

I still have unanswered questions about Jacob, MIB and stuff like that, but many of the smaller things like the hatch, which was portrayed as a "Big Thing" might not have been all that important, it was what locke needed at the time, so it sorta popped up. (yeah, it's a bit of a cop-out solution, but it works.)

Miley Cyrus "The Climb" (Metal Version)

choggie says...

Nothing beats the Louis Armstrong yet-Some of these are stretching it-the syncs leave you kinnna stale-One of the best ever mash-ups is the one BF posted with Danzig feat. Shakira

The best of the "shreds" viddies???..Paco De Lucia

Luis

FAKE Berlusconi Dry-Humps Meter Maid

silvercord says...

This is an impersonator named Maurizio Antonini, Italian Berlusconi-look-alike, who starred in the Italian-German guerrilla comedy "Bye Bye Berlusconi!" by Jan Henrik Stahlberg and Lucia Chiarla.

Apparently, this same impersonator is the one we witness above. I wonder if he's using a stunt dick?

Paco de Lucia // Entre dos aguas (1976)



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