Space-Time V1.0

1:1
First the Higg's boson came to be with a photon, light defined by dark, as the quantum space-time field or quantum foam oscillated into fruition a virtual particle with an asymmetrical energy matrix. Thus it hast made what is creation.

1:2
Then thoust foam made up and down quarks, strange and charm quarks, and top and bottom quarks. And the foam was happy.

1:3 Next came thine foam's baryonic matter that thou'ist made from; and all composite particles. Then came the other matter, unknown to man and animal, but by gravity and still some to none.

Etc...

We can do the same stupid thing.

Golf Club Light Sabers: cliche
Dark Side of the Course: Funny!

^gwiz665 Troublesome topic to get into on a forum. But I will make a meager attempt to express myself on this matter.

Firstly, I greatly respect you as a person, and value your opinion. Please excuse any phrasing that seems belittling or disrespectful of your own personal experiences with Christianity; my purpose isn't to discredit your personal experience, but relay mine.

In the interests of full disclosure, I am not a practicing Christian, I am an agnostic atheist. My pursuit of truth and knowledge lead me away from my faith some time ago. However, it is the very pursuits Christianity grew up in me that lead to this second awakening in myself. Christianity saved me, twice. Let me explain.

Low self esteem has been the story of my whole life. I was bullied a lot as a child, and my week personality was unable to cope. I always was pretty good in school in terms of grades. But the scars of my low self esteem means I never tried to live up to my full potential. I sold myself short in everything, I gave up, gave in, quit trying. Always managing slightly above average marks, several shallow friendships, and anything else that wasn't to risky.

That all changed in high school. I met one of the most influential friends I had in my life. He radiated self confidence. He also happened to be a Christian. I formerly mocked Christians via the evangelists I saw on TV, it was my only real experience with Christians till that point. I eventually "converted" to Christianity and my life was forever changed. I felt good about myself. Felt I could actually be something, do something, affect something. I was encouraged not only in personality, but in mind. I read countless books on theology, philosophy, and science. I grew in ways that I couldn't fully appreciate until my second great awakening. I was forever a different person. Gone where the rational bounds I placed on myself. I was no longer constrained by the ordinary. It was light in my darkness. A cure to the miasma of my existence. It instilled in my the responcibility to myself for goodness, purity, kindness, and truth.

The pursuit of truth eventually lead me to realize that if there is a God, it can't be the God of the bible (I won't go into that here), and so ended that phase of my life. But I am forever indebted to Christianity. And while someone might rightly point out it was me saving me, it still wouldn't of happened (I believe) without those people in the place they were doing the things they were with the believe that they were, I wouldn't be where I am now (most likely would of killed myself). All things have their share of evils and goods. For my part, even though I am no longer a Christian, I can't ever call for its eradication, or even that it is a moral bad.

To me, the great evil that works in us is a 2 billion year old tail; that this world is a world of violence. 2 billion years of animals eating other animals can't be laid at the feet of Christianity, or Islam, or any other scapegoat. We are humans, a tragic creature able to understand its own tragic nature. We seek to pass the blame to something we created, but it is what 2 billion years of life has created working in us, through us. We are the result of that, not the result of ourselves...yet. Perhaps in time we will come to terms with ourselves, and deal with ourselves. To this day, we only at best manage ourselves. I can't stop feeling anger at someone for cutting me off in traffic, I can only manage it the best I can. And I guess that is my closing thought. Right now, the best person is just a manager of their human condition, our fate was determined long ago through the course of billions of years of ooze... perhaps; or maybe God did it all, I don't know.

(edit: grammar and spelling, ugh)

I am being a dick for asking a question?

I can't help thinking that the folks who are so quick to jump on me for ASKING A QUESTION are the super sensitive, delicate ones here.

But you are right. No told me to take down my question. I have just been pommeled for asking it.

That's not censorship.

Nor was my question censorship.

So we can lay this to rest now, right?

Besides, I am quite happy. I have achieved my goal. To let the hypothetical person(s) I am worried about know that blankfist's comment wasn't funny and that someone out in cyberspace recognizes that it might be extraordinarily painful and scary to read it. That someone has their back. It would have been nicer for them if they didn't have to wade through blankfist in the first place, but hey. At least there is a counterpoint.

No censorship required. And certainly no need to beat me up for asking a question.





>> ^Dignant_Pink:

i find it really funny that you think you're being censored. you're the only one here who SPECIFICALLY asked another person to delete their comment. nobody wants you to delete yours, they just want you to stop being a dick. apparently you're some hero who's fighting the good fight against spousal abuse, like some light in the darkness. really, you're just a dick. kindly stop being a dick.
<div><div style="margin: 10px; overflow: auto; width: 80%; float: left; position: relative;" class="convoPiece"> bareboards2 said:<img style="margin: 4px 10px 10px; float: left; width: 40px;" src="http://static1.videosift.com/avatars/b/bareboards2-s.jpg" onerror="ph(this)"><div style="position: absolute; margin-left: 52px; padding-top: 1px; font-size: 10px;" class="commentarrow">◄</div><div style="padding: 8px; margin-left: 60px; margin-top: 2px; min-height: 30px;" class="nestedComment box">I didn't say the joke was off limits. I asked him to consider the feeling of others.
And hey, you believe in no censorship, right?
So stop trying to censor me, please.
(Your joke about his fiancee, by the way, is mildly humorous. So it isn't the subject matter that bothers me.)
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>> ^bareboards2:

I didn't say the joke was off limits. I asked him to consider the feeling of others.
And hey, you believe in no censorship, right?
So stop trying to censor me, please.
(Your joke about his fiancee, by the way, is mildly humorous. So it isn't the subject matter that bothers me.)


i find it really funny that you think you're being censored. you're the only one here who SPECIFICALLY asked another person to delete their comment. nobody wants you to delete yours, they just want you to stop being a dick. apparently you're some hero who's fighting the good fight against spousal abuse, like some light in the darkness. really, you're just a dick. kindly stop being a dick.

Amber called her uncle, said "We're up here for the holiday,
Jane and I were having Solstice, now we need a place to stay."
And her Christ-loving uncle watched his wife hang Mary on a tree,
He watched his son hang candy canes all made with red dye number three.
He told his niece, "It's Christmas Eve, I know our life is not your style,"
She said, "Christmas is like Solstice, and we miss you and its been awhile,"

So the Christians and the Pagans sat together at the table,
Finding faith and common ground the best that they were able,
And just before the meal was served, hands were held and prayers were said,
Sending hope for peace on earth to all their gods and goddesses.

The food was great, the tree plugged in, the meal had gone without a hitch,
Till Timmy turned to Amber and said, "Is it true that you're a witch?"
His mom jumped up and said, "The pies are burning," and she hit the kitchen,
And it was Jane who spoke, she said, "It's true, your cousin's not a Christian,"
"But we love trees, we love the snow, the friends we have, the world we share,
And you find magic from your God, and we find magic everywhere."

So the Christians and the Pagans sat together at the table,
Finding faith and common ground the best that they were able,
And where does magic come from? I think magic's in the learning,
'Cause now when Christians sit with Pagans only pumpkin pies are burning.

When Amber tried to do the dishes, her aunt said, "Really, no, don't bother."
Amber's uncle saw how Amber looked like Tim and like her father.
He thought about his brother, how they hadn't spoken in a year,
He thought he'd call him up and say, "It's Christmas and your daughter's here."
He thought of fathers, sons and brothers, saw his own son tug his sleeve, saying,
"Can I be a Pagan?" Dad said, "We'll discuss it when they leave."

So the Christians and the Pagans sat together at the table,
Finding faith and common ground the best that they were able,
Lighting trees in darkness, learning new ways from the old, and
Making sense of history and drawing warmth out of the cold.

Bible not been refuted, eh?

The Bible actually refutes itself in the very first section of the very first book by giving two separate and contradictory accounts of the creation story.

Here is a summary for those too lazy to look it up for themselves.

Genesis 1:1 - 2:4 summary:
God creates the heavens and the earth. He separates the light from the darkness (whatever that means). He creates a dome to separate Earth water from space water. He creates land, fruit and vegetation. God makes 2 lights; the sun for a day light and the moon for night light. He creates water life, bird life, sea monsters and animals (all at once without any type of evolution), and then tells them all to fuck the shit out of each other. God creates humans in their (why is this plural?) image and gives them dominion over the other beasties, and then tells them to bone up a storm too. God tells the humans and animals to help themselves to all the plants, fruits and vegies they like (but makes no mention of eating meat). On the seventh day, God orders a pizza, smokes some weed and plays Xbox all day. These are the generations of the heavens and the earth when they were created.

Done deal, right!? But wait, there's more...

Genesis 2:4-2:22 summery
On the day that God created the heavens and the earth, back before there were plants, rain and people to work the land, God forms a man from dust on the ground and breathes life into his nostrils. After that, he creates plantlife, the garden of Eden and a tree of knowledge of good and evil. God puts the man in the garden of Eden and tells him not to eat from the tree of knowledge. Then God creates all of the animals and tells the man to name them all. Finally, he creates a woman out of the man's rib.

Can you spot the differences in these two contradictory creation myths?
-The first myth spans 7 days, the second spans one day.
-The plants and animals are created before man in the first myth, and after in the second.
-In the first myth humans are created all at once, in the second the man is made first - the woman second.

Did God forget to proofread?

It is theorized that these two competing creation stories - which were passed from generation to generation through oral tradition before being written down - were both so popular, that the creators of the version of Genesis that ended up in the book that we now call 'the Bible' decided to include both.

Another interesting discussion is how the Bible was assembled from many stories written by many different people over hundreds of years, and even after it was codified, was (and still is) edited and translated and manipulated, which explains its many shifts in mood, tone, and content. If you read the Bible as literature, it is full of some great stories. The stories of David and Lot are juicy. Ecclesiastes was written by a total nihalist and is pretty bad ass. Revelation is fun too, in its own sociopathic way.

The ever-persistent pang at the nape of your neck
Forever hiding within
The resolve in a thought, the shadow of a doubt
Forever emblazoned under your skin

Suckling at your soul and radiating glory
Forever engulfing your being
Encompassing your unbridled stamina
Forever waiting to be seen

Hiding within
Holding your sin
Letting you win
Let it begin

Unveiling a capacity for strengthening your resolve
Overshadowing the shadow with a blazing light
Trampling the darkness with a tumultuous stomp
Singing a song of resolve and might

Here is the power of the imploding mist
Fast forwarding us toward impending epoch
Holding us in strength with faith and resolve
The sundered heart as he rises before us – It’s Enoch!
-Len (AKA Sagemind)

Congrats buddy!
You’ve earned your metal , forged in gold, wear it well!

Prepare to Meet Thy God
March 22, 2009

"Therefore thus will I do unto thee, O Israel: and because I will do this unto thee, prepare to meet thy God, O Israel." (Amos 4:12).

There is only one thing that everyone can know for sure. Not even death and taxes are certain, for some will never die. But "every one of us shall give account of himself to God" (Romans 14:12).

Even those who don't believe in God, those who ridicule His Word, those who disobey His laws, those who worship false gods--everyone must some day meet God. There is no better advice than: "Prepare to meet thy God!"

If anyone should ask what God, the answer is the true God, the Creator. Not the false gods of pagan pantheism, not the natural systems and processes of evolutionism, but the one and only God of Creation. He is the one who knows the thoughts of man and "maketh the morning darkness" (Amos 4:13) for all who reject or ignore Him. The word here for "darkness" is used only one other time in Scripture and is synonymous with hell--"A land of darkness, as darkness itself; and of the shadow of death, without any order, and where the light is as darkness" (Job 10:22).

In the coming judgment, "the wicked shall be turned into hell, and all the nations that forget God" (Psalm 9:17). The message of Amos needs to be heard in every generation: "Prepare to meet thy God!" For "the ungodly shall not stand in the judgment" (Psalm 1:5), and the judgment is sure: "it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment," and for those who die unprepared, "It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God" (Hebrews 9:27; 10:31).

The only way to come into His presence prepared, of course, is through Jesus Christ, who is Himself the Lord of all the hosts of Heaven. HMM

7. I am as sure as I am of anything. I'm am also certain that gravity will work tomorrow and that water is wet and that light is not dark.

I didn't know you could change themes. I vote for classic. Personally I find it eye irritating to read light text on dark backgrounds. The classic theme just looks cleaner to me.

And with a snap of his fingers, they turned the lights off! Lo and behold a dark tower against a dark sky! POOF!

I actually thought they had just erected a black sheet behind the silver one. That wouldn't even require turning the lights off. A dark sheet against a dark sky. Again, a trick that couldn't be performed during the day, and one that wouldn't get past YouTube outside of Lithuania.

Or maybe that's how Copperfield made the Statue of Liberty disappear.

The food was great, the tree plugged in, the meal had gone without a hitch
Till Timmy turned to Amber and said, "Is it true that you're a witch?"
His mom jumped up and said, "The pies are burning," and she hit the kitchen
And it was Jane who spoke, she said, "It's true, your cousin's not a Christian"
"But we love trees, we love the snow, the friends we have, the world we share
And you find magic from your God, and we find magic everywhere"

So the Christians and the Pagans sat together at the table
Finding faith and common ground the best that they were able
And where does magic come from, I think magic's in the learning
Cause now when Christians sit with Pagans only pumpkin pies are burning

When Amber tried to do the dishes, her aunt said, "Really, no, don't bother"
Amber's uncle saw how Amber looked like Tim and like her father
He thought about his brother, how they hadn't spoken in a year
He thought he'd call him up and say, "It's Christmas and your daughter's here"
He thought of fathers, sons and brothers, saw his own son tug his sleeve saying
"Can I be a Pagan?" Dad said, "We'll discuss it when they leave"

So the Christians and the Pagans sat together at the table
Finding faith and common ground the best that they were able
Lighting trees in darkness, learning new ways from the old, and
Making sense of history and drawing warmth out of the cold

"To attempt an understanding of Muad'Dib without understanding his mortal enemies, the Harkonnens, is to attempt seeing Truth without knowing Falsehood. It is the attempt to see the Light without knowing Darkness. It cannot be."

* from Manual of Muad'Dib by the Princess Irulan

Thank you Jebus, Jack, Chuck and Rexella for the copy of "2000 TIME BOMB". Money well spent. Without it we would not be alive.

It seem that my Mac's calendar was programed to go from 1999 ~ 2000 without any software updates unlike Windoze.

Isaiah 45:7 ~ I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.

Praise the Lord.