To be fair, Kesha is likely loaded with parasites.

It's like Kesha being converted with autotune.

Madeon did it better.

In fairness he did ok considering the source material. Kesha, Black Eyed Peas and Avril all mixed together. SOUNDS LIKE MONEY.

That live recording of KeSha with no background music was 10,000 times better than this crap.

>> ^raverman:
Of course you're welcome to like what ever you like. Liking something doesn't make it quality.
You can like Kesha but it doesn't make it in tune, or masterful music.
You can like Jackass because it makes you laugh but it doesnt make it cinematic excellence.
There are people who have dedicated their lives to mastering the techincal skills or creating quality music. And you don't have to like it... but it doesnt make their life and experience any less valuable.
You look like an idiot for boasting about a basic tertiary education and getting personal and pissy because people are criticizing music you like and is widely popular... but requires computer software to even make it sound in tune.


I am not "boasting" about my life. You are completely missing my point. I actually think my life is fairly mediocre. But the point is that I am a real person, and just because you don't like something doesn't make it any less valid to another human being.

I'm not saying that everybody should like it. I'm saying you are not the arbiter of what is art. It does not require talent, it does not require dedication. Of course these things help the artist express what they want to express, but any idiot off the street can weld two tin cans together and call it art, and you would have no right to say "This isn't art because he isn't talented and dedicated." Art requires only an idea and an effort to make it manifest.

You can say you don't like it. You can say you think it is frivolous. You can say that you don't relate to it on a personal level. You can say you think it is out of tune. But don't say "This isn't art." How arrogant. She could be strumming random chords and chanting nonsense syllables in atonal screeching and it would still be art if that was how she chose to express herself.

Excellence is an opinion. Good or bad is an opinion. Skilled or not is an opinion. Art is whatever the artist says is art. That's not up to you.

By the way, this is also 'Musical art': http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tS-VvIcfSuw

>> ^vaire2ube:

My point is
--- this sift description is deceptive (which it wouldn't be if one just sifted the AUDIO unaltered from CH, which also isnt confirmed to be really her but would be a lot of effort to fake...even though there is a fake one from CH with a convincing soundalike)
and
-- is pointless to use for any real point of comparison whatsoever.

This is essentially a mockery, and more accurately a bastardization and waste of everyones time.
A parody would attempt to be funny, you're correct... this video IS "funny", but the author was trying to mock the person sans cleverness... so i guess it would be a matter of opinion on that, really.
Also, its not a simple mix in context. If you read how he altered it, you will understand this.
any other questions??


This is exactly what the title says. Kesha without autotune. It's a live feed plus the music from the studio track. You can look up other versions of her singing this song live, it's almost exactly the same. No autotune.

The description of the mix is straightforward. He adjusted the music down a half step to match the pitch she sings it live. That's all.

Why don't you just admit that you misunderstood what the guy was writing in his description? This is a non-issue.

@MaxWilder Of course you're welcome to like what ever you like. Liking something doesn't make it quality.

You can like Kesha but it doesn't make it in tune, or masterful music.
You can like Jackass because it makes you laugh but it doesnt make it cinematic excellence.

There are people who have dedicated their lives to mastering the techincal skills or creating quality music. And you don't have to like it... but it doesnt make their life and experience any less valuable.

You look like an idiot for boasting about a basic tertiary education and getting personal and pissy because people are criticizing music you like and is widely popular... but requires computer software to even make it sound in tune.

>> ^vaire2ube:

again, description for this sift from YT:
I got the audio of Kesha (or Ke$ha if you're a purist) from College Humor dot com. Then, I took the instrumental track of Your Love Is My Drug, pitched it down one half-step from the studio version to match her vocals, and layered her vocal track on top of it. - Tim burt
i have too much time on my hands but its because im so good at doing nothing. also shouldnt this be in different channel like parody or comedy? and shouldnt i be doing something more productive??


vaire2ube, What is your point? Somebody uploaded the raw feed from a live performance (here), then somebody else mixed it with the studio recording for context. It's not a parody.

Also, @raverman: You can shove your opinion of what is good and what is "merely" entertainment. I like Kesha's music. I am an adult human being with a bachelor's degree who has listened to a whole lotta music during my life, and performed quite a lot as well. If you don't like Kesha, that's fine. Everyone has their own musical tastes. But that is all they are: "tastes". Preferences. OPINIONS. You look like an idiot by pretending that you are all high and mighty and can dictate what is "art".

Dammit, why can't people just shut up and let others like what they like?

its a complex trick but some music fits this pattern inevitably.. still fun. 4 4 time maybe has something to do with it



again, description for this sift from YT:

I got the audio of Kesha (or Ke$ha if you're a purist) from College Humor dot com. Then, I took the instrumental track of Your Love Is My Drug, pitched it down one half-step from the studio version to match her vocals, and layered her vocal track on top of it. - Tim burt

i have too much time on my hands but its because im so good at doing nothing. also shouldnt this be in different channel like parody or comedy? and shouldnt i be doing something more productive??

no one noticed on youtube about the Kesha autotune controversy... from the submitter on youtube

" I took the instrumental track of Your Love Is My Drug, pitched it down one half-step from the studio version to match her vocals, and layered her vocal track on top of it. "


Of course it sounds off, heh heh. The guy fucked up altering pitches and trying to match tracks.

smooman you sound so bitter. Kesha has found an audience through image, songwriting ability, and vocal talent. I don't give a crap how many people you know that will pat your head and agree with you that she "sucks", she makes bank through talents you don't have, and you should let it go.

This song, in particular, is a HORRIBLE piece to judge someone's singing ability. It goes fast, it has background harmonizations to support it, and it is more about the lyrics and attitude than vocal ability. But despite that, she hits the notes, keeps the energy up, and has fun with it. THAT is why she gets paid. She's not sitting in judgement at a keyboard talking shit anonymously.

Here's the same song live with all the backup singers, etc. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6MaqZa47lE

Nobody's saying it's the best song ever; it's just a fun little nothing. I'm boggled that anybody would use it as evidence that somebody "sucks". Grow the fuck up.

not just autotune. lots of harmonizer too. compressors, reverb, edits...etc.
autotune has been played out as an "effect". as a studio correction tool, however, it's still used all the time.
that being said, engineers and mixers would rather not use it. pain in the ass. same as editing a drumstroke that is off time.

kesha, and her management, sure knows how to make money. sex sells, and poppy, hyper-compressed 3 note music.
"accessibility" in music is a very interesting thing to study. usually hit music has very little to do with talent and everything to do with energy and accessibility.

Here is the first one: http://videosift.com/video/Kesha-Tik-Tok-Vs-Star-Wars

as a raging feminist and a mother,.... i gotta disagree.

my kids grew out of the sesame street days years ago, and now are mortified of viewing or duplicating anything remotely attached to sesame street.

are little girls over sexualized in/by pop culture? yes
is it because they saw a pop stars cleavage on sesame street one time when they were 2? probably not.

do i think the same sample of parents will let their little girls idolize vapid, packaged, subtly sexualized and marketed teenage pop stars later in their lives? yes.
and let their little boys form a skewed idea of women and sexuality built around pop culture iconography and too much internet porn? yes.


>> ^GenjiKilpatrick:

@<a rel="nofollow" href="http://videosift.com/member/Stu" title="member since June 23rd, 2010" class="profilelink">Stu
Your point is my point exactly! Our culture is constantly filled with scantily clad females.
As soon as you change the channel you'll find a girl in a bikini is selling you some crap.
So in our hypersexualized marketing culture it's not a cop out to suggest that we promote modest behavior and select role models for young kids who practice modesty.
By obstinately defending Perry's right to show the top of her tits..
You're all missing the point completely.
And essentially condoning someone like Kesha teaching 3 to 7 yr olds their numbers and alphabet by rewording her song about binge drinking and causal drunk sex.
Some of these kids are going to become attached to these shitty artists.
Worship their albums and outfits and success and likely associate being half naked with success and popularity.
They don't even have to be told that. They just see the behavior and emulate it.
My point is. If you show kids racy glamorous popstars they'll aspire to that.
Maybe if you showed a female scientist or olympic athlete or district court judge more female youth would aspire to those things.
...Am i seriously the only windbag on videosift that hold this point of view?

@Stu
Your point is my point exactly! Our culture is constantly filled with scantily clad females.

As soon as you change the channel you'll find a girl in a bikini is selling you some crap.

So in our hypersexualized marketing culture it's not a cop out to suggest that we promote modest behavior and select role models for young kids who practice modesty.

By obstinately defending Perry's right to show the top of her tits..

You're all missing the point completely.
And essentially condoning someone like Kesha teaching 3 to 7 yr olds their numbers and alphabet by rewording her song about binge drinking and causal drunk sex.

Some of these kids are going to become attached to these shitty artists.
Worship their albums and outfits and success and likely associate being half naked with success and popularity.
They don't even have to be told that. They just see the behavior and emulate it.

My point is. If you show kids racy glamorous popstars they'll aspire to that.
Maybe if you showed a female scientist or olympic athlete or district court judge more female youth would aspire to those things.

...Am i seriously the only windbag on videosift that hold this point of view?