>> ^smooman:

>> ^Stormsinger:
>> ^gwiz665:
See, there's another one of those people calling someone a bad person for having a different opinion. Are people that enjoy Jackass also mouthbreathers, stormsinger? Fail troll is fail.
>> ^Stormsinger:
>> ^gwiz665:
I personally think that pushing this talk post to the frontpage is more damaging to the site than the jousting video. Talks and videos are separated for a reason, so the majority - who do not care at all about the talks - can just watch their videos instead of seeing this drama crap.

Well of course you do...you're one of the mouth-breathers who thinks people getting punched in the crotch is just good clean fun.


I'm not calling anyone a bad person for having a different opinion. I'm calling anyone who views violent abuse as entertainment or even acceptable behavior to be a lower form of life...and not really deserving of any form of respect. See the difference? Violence and abuse -is- bad. We are supposed to have learned that by the time we get out of...oh...kindergarten or so.
And yes, the majority of folks who find Jackass to be funny are exactly the sort of people I'm talking about. That's your audience, apparently...may you all have a blast beating each other silly. But don't start whining when people with any degree taste and empathy find your little show to be abhorrent.
Violence and abuse are never right. Gender, or even consent, has nothing to do with it.

god could you be more pretentious?


Sure...but then you wouldn't be able to follow it, would you?

>> ^Stormsinger:

>> ^gwiz665:
See, there's another one of those people calling someone a bad person for having a different opinion. Are people that enjoy Jackass also mouthbreathers, stormsinger? Fail troll is fail.
>> ^Stormsinger:
>> ^gwiz665:
I personally think that pushing this talk post to the frontpage is more damaging to the site than the jousting video. Talks and videos are separated for a reason, so the majority - who do not care at all about the talks - can just watch their videos instead of seeing this drama crap.

Well of course you do...you're one of the mouth-breathers who thinks people getting punched in the crotch is just good clean fun.


I'm not calling anyone a bad person for having a different opinion. I'm calling anyone who views violent abuse as entertainment or even acceptable behavior to be a lower form of life...and not really deserving of any form of respect. See the difference? Violence and abuse -is- bad. We are supposed to have learned that by the time we get out of...oh...kindergarten or so.
And yes, the majority of folks who find Jackass to be funny are exactly the sort of people I'm talking about. That's your audience, apparently...may you all have a blast beating each other silly. But don't start whining when people with any degree taste and empathy find your little show to be abhorrent.
Violence and abuse are never right. Gender, or even consent, has nothing to do with it.


god could you be more pretentious?

Wow. Are you super cool or what?

Upvote you for wanting to just have fun.

In reply to this comment by Stingray:
I thought about it for a while, and removed it because the video doesn't mean anything to me. It's just a dumb video I found and submitted it to notch up my star points and nothing more. The video also represents a catalyst for causing a ton of controversy on the sift, and I don't really want to be caught up in it.

Someone else can sift it if they'd like.
>> ^bareboards2:

Oh no! Why did you kill it??? I didn't want you to kill it!!
I haven't even seen it! I have no opinion!!!!!

I thought about it for a while, and removed it because the video doesn't mean anything to me. It's just a dumb video I found and submitted it to notch up my star points and nothing more. The video also represents a catalyst for causing a ton of controversy on the sift, and I don't really want to be caught up in it.

Someone else can sift it if they'd like.
>> ^bareboards2:

Oh no! Why did you kill it??? I didn't want you to kill it!!
I haven't even seen it! I have no opinion!!!!!

>> ^gwiz665:

See, there's another one of those people calling someone a bad person for having a different opinion. Are people that enjoy Jackass also mouthbreathers, stormsinger? Fail troll is fail.
>> ^Stormsinger:
>> ^gwiz665:
I personally think that pushing this talk post to the frontpage is more damaging to the site than the jousting video. Talks and videos are separated for a reason, so the majority - who do not care at all about the talks - can just watch their videos instead of seeing this drama crap.

Well of course you do...you're one of the mouth-breathers who thinks people getting punched in the crotch is just good clean fun.



I'm not calling anyone a bad person for having a different opinion. I'm calling anyone who views violent abuse as entertainment or even acceptable behavior to be a lower form of life...and not really deserving of any form of respect. See the difference? Violence and abuse -is- bad. We are supposed to have learned that by the time we get out of...oh...kindergarten or so.

And yes, the majority of folks who find Jackass to be funny are exactly the sort of people I'm talking about. That's your audience, apparently...may you all have a blast beating each other silly. But don't start whining when people with any degree taste and empathy find your little show to be abhorrent.

Violence and abuse are never right. Gender, or even consent, has nothing to do with it.

>> ^Stingray:

kill


Why did you kill it? Don't let others browbeat you into killing your videos.

See, there's another one of those people calling someone a bad person for having a different opinion. Are people that enjoy Jackass also mouthbreathers, stormsinger? Fail troll is fail.
>> ^Stormsinger:

>> ^gwiz665:
I personally think that pushing this talk post to the frontpage is more damaging to the site than the jousting video. Talks and videos are separated for a reason, so the majority - who do not care at all about the talks - can just watch their videos instead of seeing this drama crap.

Well of course you do...you're one of the mouth-breathers who thinks people getting punched in the crotch is just good clean fun.

>> ^gwiz665:

I personally think that pushing this talk post to the frontpage is more damaging to the site than the jousting video. Talks and videos are separated for a reason, so the majority - who do not care at all about the talks - can just watch their videos instead of seeing this drama crap.


Well of course you do...you're one of the mouth-breathers who thinks people getting punched in the crotch is just good clean fun.

Normally I wouldn't be posting in this discussion, but I feel like I got semi-dragged into it by a video I posted a month ago and was essentially called out into this.

I don't generally get involved in conversations around here because I learned a long time ago that you're not going to win any prize for proving your point on the Internet. People are always going to believe what they want to believe, because everyone feels they are right on the matter, and reading words on a screen (usually written in anger) is not going to change their minds.

I visit VideoSift for videos, not discussion. If I like a video or think it's funny, I'll upvote it. Most videos I disagree with, I will never even watch to begin with.

When I posted the topless chair jousting video (http://videosift.com/video/Topless-Chair-Jousting-New-Olympic-Sport-for-2012), I basically figured it was a fun, stupid video that people would find funny. The women in the video are not being forced to do that against their will and appear to be having a fun time. They also have padding and helmets on to protect them from any injury.

As is common in television and radio, sex sells... and that's no different on the Internet. Videos that "shock and awe" people will get huge votes. I figured, if people don't like my video, they can downvote it. However, since the way VideoSift is driven is by its members, and the members with more star points have more power, then is it wrong of me to "sell" my videos to get more upvotes and star points?

That video sat around for a full month in my p-queue with no one voting on it, even with the words topless and blatant thumbnail showing breasts. No one cared because no one saw it, until today when it was seen and promoted.

My own opinion on this matter and on VideoSift in general is this:

If you don't like it, downvote it. That is the way the system works. VideoSift is much like the free world in general. You can post what you like, provided it doesn't break any rules... sometimes people post things for fun, others post for a cause.

I have already walked away from VideoSift twice before. I needed to take a break... I was sucking up too much of my time into competing for star points and not taking care of things in my life outside of the Internet. I came back slowly and I generally just lurk in the background.

I infrequently submit videos I find. Sometimes I see a video and think to myself "Wow, this video is great! Lots of people will upvote it!" or other times I see a video with subject matter that I care about and think it is worthy of a greater showing and submit them, even though I know they're just destined for my p-queue because no one will even bother watching them.

The point is, I've come to accept the fact that I just lurk in the background and I know that any videos I may post about what I may really care about probably won't get seen by anyone here. I also already know that at least half the people reading my post right now have already tuned out and don't really care what I have to say to begin with.

I personally think that pushing this talk post to the frontpage is more damaging to the site than the jousting video. Talks and videos are separated for a reason, so the majority - who do not care at all about the talks - can just watch their videos instead of seeing this drama crap.

>> ^juliovega914:

Rider falls, breaks back, ends career in baseball, loses athletic scholarship, has to drop out of college, insurance doesn't cover injury cause it occurred at a university athletic event, athletic insurance doesn't cover injury because it occurred whilst goofing off. Out of college, 40k in debt to student loans, 120k in debt to medical bills, 160k total in debt with no career prospects.


I think you're a bit overstating it, but what you're saying is the exact reason you will NEVER see this kind of Awesome in the big leagues.

I'm not entirely sure what you're upset about..

Are you upset about the video itself? or the comments ribbing it.

The video itself I see nothing wrong with, she obviously agreed to do it and knew what she was getting into. Yes, she got punched, no, it wasn't in anger and it wasn't somewhere that would truly hurt. (getting hit in the boob, eye, or nose would hurt a helluva lot more, i'm sure.)

The comments are nothing out of the ordinary, I tend to see videosift as a fairly close knit community. Maybe because I've been a member for years and I've just gotten used to them. When people feel comfortable with those around them, they make stupid jokes that they wouldn't otherwise, because generally "Everybody else" knows they're only joking.

I made a joke the other day on the drunk woman at the beach video about "maybe if she was wearing a one-piece." I'm not a sexist, I don't actually care what people are wearing as long as they enjoy how they look. I only said that because it was a stupid joke, nothing more. I feel that's how most of the community operates.

I'm more curious as to what you're specifically upset about so I can understand further.

edit: ah, the topless jousting.

That's just something that you'll unfortunately have to get used to. There was a large discussion on what classifies as "porn" on the sift not long ago, and ever since the floodgates have been open for people posting the dumbest stuff with naked people with the blanket over it labled "art".

It's something that's too tricky to nail down, and people exploit that.

Stirring the pot for no reason. If you don't like a video, downvote it, or avoid it. People have difference of opinion, this is not a little pond, you have to deal with it.

The reason the sift is a good place to be, is because we are so different people. If you don't like it and want to change it to only include your version of reality, then this is not the place for you. I don't think any of the internet really is, when you think about it.

Videosift has a fine filtering mechanism - or well, IS a filtering mechanism, to sift out the crap from the internet. Sometimes things get through that you may not like. Plenty of stuff on here annoys the crap out of me, but I just go around it or even downvote it.

A finishing note is, everything does not revolve around you. I certainly didn't promote that one to attack you or any of the women of the sift - I did it because I like boobs in motion and the video is fun if stupid, and to piss off all the white knights templar who have all the right opinions on the sift.

The cunt punching video is not sexist. The topless chair jousting (http://videosift.com/video/Topless-Chair-Jousting-New-Olympic-Sport-for-2012) video is not sexist. They are no more sexist than all the Old Spice commercials with Isiah Mustafa flexing his pecks to sell deoderant.

>> ^bareboards2:

see my sift talk post


Hi, I'm assuming you're referring to your most recent sift talk post:
http://horrorshow.videosift.com/talk/I-m-not-enjoying-the-trolling-on-the-Sift

If that's the case, please be aware I posted this video a month ago before you posted the sift talk and now my video was just recently promoted. I understand the thumbnail may be offensive to some people, so I'll gladly change it to something less offensive... however since the entire video is of a topless woman jousting another woman in a bikini, I don't really know how else to get an appropriate thumbnail.

>> ^juliovega914:

Rider falls, breaks back, ends career in baseball, loses athletic scholarship, has to drop out of college, insurance doesn't cover injury cause it occurred at a university athletic event, athletic insurance doesn't cover injury because it occurred whilst goofing off. Out of college, 40k in debt to student loans, 120k in debt to medical bills, 160k total in debt with no career prospects.


Thus spake Sir Buzz Killington.